Political Attitude Overall (Page 1 of 4)

I've never found evidence to suggest they had an educated reason. They're just illegal. It's beyond ridiculous

In the end, it goes back to the idea that if you ban something. People will follow the law and do the right thing. Or they're too stupid to understand the consequences of their actions.
Prohibition. They just up and decided to give people their alcohol back.
Gun Control zones create more violence.
Narcotics. Nobody smokes illegally anymore (har, har).
Warning labels on Chainsaws warning you not to try to stop the blade with your hands or genitals.

That's a little off track but it's along the same lines.

Going back to the original topic.
The United States Government is going down a road I'd rather not drive down.
As the historians have pointed out, if you want to totally conquer a people. Take aware their method of defense.
Banning guns could easily ban hunting. And animal populations would be out of control. Truth be told it helps the evironment.

That's where I stand for weapons. If you take in hand the idea that people will always be in need to defend themselves from nature and themselves.

Criminals don't care, otherwise they wouldn't be criminals.

And what's the worst they can recieve?
In the US it's state law presiding over most cases so it really depends on where you are but quite a few states refuse to give the death penalty. Our jails are filling up and there's still no slow down of crime.

I don't understand how people can believe that people will follow the rules if there's no consequence.
If I brandish my weapon, they'll probably have one is a good reason not to even do it in the first place,

It's said that murder is wrong. It is. But execution is different than murder, as it is a reaction to wrongdoing.
Religious people might want to be wary of the spoiler coming up:
-The higher up/s have no problem in rightful execution-

So, instead of taking nunchucks away from people...we could start emptying out prisons....

Y'know, I'm changing the title of this topic. Since it's evolved from its humble opener.
"Political attitude overall" sounds better.

A way to cover the important issues in need of discussion.
Energy, war, ideas.

Things going on right now.

I live in Montana, so... Like everyone owns a gun here. The two biggest crimes we have in the entire county are drunk driving and drugs. I think there was a murder a while back, it was on the front page of the paper. If everyone has a gun (or other weapon) then no one will want to do anything to anyone. And even if no one had weapons everyone still has hands and feet.

The above was another early morning post so sorry if it's all garbled and rambly.

Somehow, I'm skeptical. But curious.

Versatile after a long time. Just practicing with my wood ones I get sore, it's not a very easy trick to master.

Weapons in general???

hmm.........

well I think they're ok for sport...........but overall I hate guns.
They do nothing but cause more problems between the human race.
The invention of the gun is what I call a genocidal invention.
Since stupid poeple carry weapons on the street for dumb reasons, others have them to protect themselves from those who use them incorrectly and wrong..........or from those who are too dangerous.

its a neverending cycle of humans not trusting each other. Gun distance us away from each other, and I dont mean to sound cheesy but, we should learn how to come together and act as one nation of a family.

The political view on guns from the average politician is irrelavent to trying to find the solution.

TW

The gun is not the worst invention, not the reason we have crime and violence I don't believe.

It' an evolution of a system that had been going on for hundreds of thousands of years. The concept of dominion. Wars, weapons, and violence are integral in every facet of human life.
I say had because the current attitude of conflict has changed considerably, economics has paved the way to startling peace in comparison to the past. Albiet it's created whole new problems, and will especially when the non-renewable energy sources are below the point of desired-quantity, and then afterwards when a viable renewable energy source is found.

Even if we took all the bombs away, all the guns, and knives and whatever away. Someone would create them again, and do it because they could.

The plus to guns is that they help nature, at least in the United States. Responsible (that's a pretty big stretch these days) hunters contribute money to protecting wildlife everytime they purchase equipment and licenses. Hunting keeps animal populations down and feeds people. But they're always that one deviant who decides to screw it up for the rest of us.
I agree, they're a tool. And like anything can be sharpened and bent and molded to suit the needs as a weapon.

I just don't believe it's natural for people to get along. The idea of a close knit group of individuals in nature doesn't exist. Ants aren't individuals for example. All animals compete with one another and strive to one up the other.
It's amazing we can even think about animal rights, or humanitarianism.
Animal rights...that's a subject I might touch later.

Chainsaw is a tool. But one that has to be used with care and caution. But as a counter argument. What is a gun really intended? At least a chainsaw has the purpose of felling trees etc.

(sorry i feel the need to play devil's advocate.... personal feelings aside)

Well the poeple who carry guns ARENT the problem............its the guns themselves.

ok lets make an example........

Lets just say a man named Joe buys the first ever made gun. The poeple in his community are aware that Joe has the power to END A LIFE. So they decide to buy themSELVES guns to protect themselves from thier own fear. Now we have an entire community of gun owners. Somewhere along the line, somebody will lash out for whatever reason.............and shoot. This causes an unbalanced community and NOBODY trusts anyone else that owns a gun.
No more trust..............no more community.

This is exactly what has happened in America today....................our country is now unstabble, unbalanced, and nobody trusts anyone else, and the single invention of GUNS created this..........

lets just put it this way............................
No guns..................Massively less killings.

TW

Thats true. Im not saying guns are the cause of all of our problems, all Im saying is that guns and weapons are the start of all the lack of trust. The actions themselves are OUR responsibility.

think back to what I said.

TW

Regardless of the fact that there are entire hunting clubs and communities? Conventions and gun shows?

Guns don't create situations like this any more than swords used to. The only difference is that no one carries them around openly anymore. You don't see a man walking down the street with a sword strapped to his back next to the guy with a spear.

If the caveman in the other cave has a spear, you'll probably get one.
If the lady next door has the first electric vacuum you'll probably get one too.
It's called a rat race and it can definantly upset communities. But it can be anything, the fashion industry works this way.
But I'm sorry to say I don't believe guns are the problem. Because of a lack of evidence to suggest it.

For example. Fewer people are killed in random school shootings when the students or staff are allowed to carry guns on campus.