Do you believe in God or evolution? (Page 3 of 15)

Did you just refer to yourself in the third person Karson? 

But as Mandalore Hunter said, there is evidence that the Garden of Eden near the Tigris and the Euphrates which is Mesopotamia.  Modern day Iraq.  Again this is one of the many theories.

I also said people guessed the most logical place, Sev. And many theories become realities. There are several other hints, like God's flaming sword said to have closed off the Garden of Eden being a meteorite that Jews now consider holy and they worship God through it. Iv'e even seen pictures of it, and I would've thought it was a sword too at that point with it crashing down.

I don't think thats odd at all. I've come across it before.

There are far too many older religious traditions for me to believe exclusively in a god that developed out of a cultural tradition covering a few hundred square miles in what we today call the Middle East. The Bible, as we have it today, is an edited, translated, re-edited,  collection of documents complied by humans over several hundred years. We owe a lot of modern christianity to the Councils of Nicea, (read a book), the fact that anyone can believe in either God or evolution without direct experience of either makes me suspicious of human psychology in general. Scientifically, the biggest problem with both positions is that you can't falsify either of them. You can't test, in a controlled experiment, God's existence. Likewise, evolution is a process, not an event. You can't see evolution happening, by definition, "change over time."

SO, my position is that I am going to have to be CONVINCED either way. Right now I am leaning toward evolution because we have a fossil record that supports some aspects of the theory, whereas, the Bible pretty much only supports itself.  But I feel it is foolish to completely discount the possibility of God, that's also unscientific.

If any of this evolution stuff is real, which I don't think is, God was behind it all. Like the Big Bang....Who lit the Fuse?

Gravity I'm almost sure is Newton's Law of Gravity.  But just because we don't know how something works, doesn't mean there isn't another explanation that you can't quite comprehend...

There is not enough evidence for evolution to make it a fact.  That is ridiculous.  If there was then there would be no point to this discussion. 

I find that the concept of evolution within humans is ridiculous.  Evolution is survival of the fittest.  So in todays society why don't we have all those in Africa dying?  Because humans are compassionate beings and are taking steps to prevent it.  The general populace would not stand by while whole races die off.  Even more ridiculous that evolutionists would suggest that those emotions such as love and compassion would be controlled by chemical reactions in the brain.

I gotta agree with what Appo said about that BB Theory. Thats not what it is. Its not that something exploded from nothing. There WAS something, a tiny compressed form that burst forth. The result of that explosion created all the debri that would form planets and stars and asteroids, etc... And of course theres alot more to it then just that.

Now, im not saying that I believe whole-heartedly in the BB Theory. There could have been another way. But I tend to think that it is more believable than having a supernatural being say "Hey I'm bored." and start poofing up planets and stars and animals and humans.

As for the Theory of Evolution, the signs are obvious. Sometimes I think that the only reason it isnt official is because it would cause serious problems which teaching it in schools and creation beliefs and stuff. As it is, the Evo Theory has caused enough problems with the religious community, if it was actually official then it would be worse. I'm not sure were all ready to accept it. Denial perhaps?

Yeah I second that thing Appo said about the endorphins. Also, your logic is kind of flawed there with the survival of the fittest thing. I dont quite understand what youre saying. What about the buffalo driven to extinction? Where was the compassion there? They didn't pass the test of survival of the fittest.

I agree completely with everything you said here.

You cant be serious...

http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/e … ence15.htm
(Third paragraph is the best part)

......why?

So you're telling me the religious fanatics and believers aren't all just convinced that God created man *or atleast that there is no Evolution* and that doesn't narrow their field of thinking?

He could also have created Evolution...I don't believe it, but there is a possibility he did.

All you did there was give more evidence to contradict your own statement that there is no fossil record to support evolution. The evidence is right there, youre listing it. You may say there is no SOLID evidence, but then where is the solid evidence that a Maker exists and created life? The fact that fossil evidence very much shows how evolution is true is the first thing I learned in my anthropology. I took the time after class to ask my professor today in person and get more facts. She laughed when I told her that someone told me that there was NO fossil record that supports evolution. She explained that there are two different types of evidence from fossil records that shows evolution. Seeing fossils through time and age, and seeing them through the different sediment layers and actually having the evidence right there in front of you.

Secondly, she told me how there are Darwinists who use an 'island' method to show evolution. They took a species of birds that can be found on different islands through out the world. Each island was different of course, and had different conditions. The different groups of birds have EVOLVED and changed to support the different environments more. The evidence is there, you choose to disregard it on claims that its not enough for you. Well, its enough for me. I can fill in the blanks here.

When did I say Faith was the 'in thing'? or an easy choice? Quote me if you want, but dont put words into my mouth.

Let me go check that now, ill edit in a moment...

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I cant seem to find that, where exactly is it?

Yes, you are. And this can be clearly seen when you list quite a bit of evidence in your quote there and yet right after begin the next paragraph with the line "So.......they have nothing." NOTHING????? You just listed evidence, how is that nothing? Because you CHOOSE it to be nothing. You choose to disregard it because you "Believe because I don't want this to be all there is to life..." Youre emotions are clouding your ability to think critically here. NEVER did i say Faith was an easy choice. IT IS THE HARDEST THING TO JUST PUT FAITH INTO A GOD YOU DONT KNOW EXISTS. However, i accept it as a possibility. My vision isn't narrowed by fear or emotion. I'd sure as hell like to believe that theres some tie in between a God and evolution. I would love to believe in a God and believe so much that you are willing to die for this entity that you cant see or hear or know if he exists. I envy you with your faith, but I go for fact, not 'truth'. And the facts point to evolution, not God.