Star Wars: The Clone Wars (Page 13 of 15)

don't worry, we beat those kids up

Do we have any idea who is under clawed beskar gam?

Season Premiere tonight.

RISE OF THE BOUNTY HUNTERS.

Pretty cool.

I watched it last night. It was pretty cool. Bane seems like a pretty cool dude, but they haven't introduced the mando's in the series yet.

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My wife will probably laugh at me me for this, but I am my own person and have my own opinions.  I'm going to expand on something I said in another thread:

I have to address the major concern I hear.  A lot of the second generation of Star Wars fans complain that Clone Wars isn't "canon", and reject it outright.  A lot from the second even dislike the third generation because of it.  Well, I'm 32, and from the generation before THEM, and feel they're missing the point.  If you're THAT worried about "canon" and "continuity" there's no reason you should like Episode 1 or 2, either, as compared to the true original trilogy.  You'd think Vader JUST might have recognized C3P0 and R2, considering he supposedly BUILT C3P0.  Why did Han Solo call Jedi an "ancient religion" if it was an _active_ religion no more then (at maximum, religions don't just die out because the people in charge say it's illegal) 18 years ago?  Why was everyone acting like Obi-Wan was an ancient man, when he was (apparently) barely pushing 55?  Midichlorians?  Are we expected to believe the Empire forgot how to test for those or something?  Lucas has ALWAYS made stuff up as he went along, there has never been a coherent plot; it's got as many retcons as a Marvel comic.

Vader being Luke's FATHER was clearly not planned and just pulled out of nowhere.  How, exactly, did they "hide" Luke by... sticking him with his REAL Aunt and Uncle and using his REAL last name?  If Vader was so interested in making sure everyone who could use the Force was wiped out... one would think he would murder everyone named "Skywalker" from his OWN HOME PLANET just out of general common sense.

At the end of the day, Anakin Skywalker having an apprentice between Episodes 2 and 3 he never once mentions in Episode 3 is small beer compared to past ridiculous spur of the moment retcons Lucas has done for another dollar.  These clones becoming known as Mandalorians?  It doesn't matter, that's just now the way it IS.  And the second generation of fans is going to have to learn a skill the first generation did as well: just accept it.  Things change.

I learned to accept Jedi is no longer an ancient tradition, with weapons from a "more civilized era", it's now "Hey Luke I served with Jedi when I was your age!".  Vader isn't just an extremely badass enforcer in a long line of enforcers Palpatine's long-lived and feared empire has had anymore, now he's just Palpatine's second in command in an "Empire" that sprang up, effectively, less then a generation ago.  Jabba the Hutt is no longer a small time but scary criminal overmind on a useless, jerkwater planet named Tatooine, now he apparently has controlled most of the crime in that entire SECTOR for 40 years or something.

And that Boba guy we all like so much?  Remember the theater in 1983?  When he showed up in Return of the Jedi?  I was there and many others on these boards were as well.  I was only 6, but I remember it well because I LOVED Star Wars until TPM broke my heart.  Everyone laughed at what happened to him, and he was a comic relief character.  But the fans loved him, and we got him changed into something so much better.  He took off, his back story was fleshed out, and that comedic _rookie_ mishap has been retconned into one of the _very_ few mistakes an amazing, tens steps above the rest, galaxy-feared bounty hunter has ever made.

My wife, only 10 years younger then I, is from the second generation of fans.  To her... Boba Fett has ALWAYS been an extraordinary badass.

My generation of fans has learned to accept that NOTHING stays the same.  The novels were the last holdout of sane continuity but from what I can gather they've just been retcon after retcon as well lately.  It took me a while, even longer then most of my generation (Episode 3 brought me back), but we learned to accept it, even if we still hate Jar-Jar.  I LOVE Boba's new badass persona.  I can get into it.  He's awesome to read about.  But he wasn;t always that way.

My wife has compalined that "These kids will think the Clone Wars cartoon is Canon!"  Well, guess what honey?  Welcome to Star Wars.  You think Threepio being built by Darth Vader is Canon.  You think Boba being the best Bounty Hunter to draw breath is canon.  And you know what?  You're right on both counts.. but you're only right because Star Wars has changed and evolved.  It always has.  It always will.

Star Wars is changing again, because it wants to stay an iconic part of our culture.  Star Wars could not have stayed forever based solely on the strength of the original trilogy; and it cannot stay forever on the strength of the prequel trilogy either.  Star Wars has always been an expanding, changing body of work; and if you would like Star Wars to remain in our culture another 30-some odd years from now, you have to accept that it always will be.

A reminder: comics blessed as CANON in the late 70's had Luke and Leia _marry_.  Star Wars will always change in pursuit of the mighty dollar; and that is what keeps it up front on while things like Babylon 5 will fall to irrelevancy.  Is anyone here a truly big fan of Dragnet?  It was huge the first time Star Wars was... where is it now?  It's a footnote.  But Star Wars evolved with the times and hangs on.

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TL;DR version

Canon has always been a malleable thing in our fandom.  Take it easy, give Clone Wars a chance on it's own merits, not worrying about your particular version of canon.  In a time of crap like Spongebob, something playful and still moderately intelligent like Clone Wars is NEEDED.  Kids have nothing else to watch.

I always found Sponge-bob to be quite amusing...

Although watching the series has forced me to come up with an image expressing of my feelings about one part of Clone Wars:

I mean seriously.

I still don't completely understand. Is Boba Fett CONFIRMED 100%, or is it merely a possibility at this point?

The thing about that is that's official artwork.  That actually happened.  I just added the border and wording.  It's from one of the comics.

Yup.  She was impersonating Zaa Vashee to foil a kidnapping plot.  I'm all for whatever exotic fantasies, but isn't Lucas himself adamant about her being 11?  I know someone will say "The slavers don't care.  They will exploit anyone" and yes, that is correct in-universe.  But the problem is it was written BY someone in our universe, and then drawn by someone in our universe.

It's not the worst thing I've seen though, it's actually kinda tame, albeit still wrong.  Anyone ever heard of Zatch bell (Gash bell for those of you who like to pretend you're Japanese)?  This is a show that stars a teenager who is followed around by a little boy in a girl's sailor dress.  Google Image search the show.  the "in universe" explanation is that's some sort of advanced sorceror's robes and the little boy is actually a demon.  That's fine for "in universe" except the show was created by people from OUR universe, and at the end of the day; it's just a cheap excuse to have a blonde little boy running around in a girl's school dress.  It's creepy and the artist of the manga draws a LOT of REALLY gross "fanservice" pictures of said little boy, including so far two volumes of what amounts to "upskirt" collections of the character.

And the cynical part of me honestly believes Ahsoka may exist simply to pander to the unhealthy lolicon thing going on with people who don't shower often and watch way too much anime, and think they speak Japanese when they actually sound like 5 year old girls.

....not sure what this says about me since Ahsoka's becoming one of my favorite Star Wars characters; but at least I'm not so far gone that I can't be a little repelled by what's essentially the fictional exploitation of a child.

Oh anyone who thinks I am overreacting, go onto a BDSM forum and ask one of the people there about that image.  That type of wear and that specific POSE are integral to their games, and I doubt that's a coincidence.  (The pose is called "Wild Horse" incidentally, because it's a slave that wants to be broken.  Is it obvious I lived in Hollywood for a time?  lol)

...lol, my friend who does not post here had something fun to say after reading what I just wrote.  "Man Fox, it's like a crusade with you.  Sexual Deviants for Public Decency or something."

Lol.  Who wants to join SDFPD?  Get off to whatever gets you off, but keep it to yourself; will be our message to the masses! *is tired and found this hilarious*

(I am Sohei Fox elsewhere)

Oola is an adult.