Karen Traviss... (Page 7 of 8)

ummm... i'm not avoiding her work.  As I've said, I havn't gotten around to the later era that covers Boba, but I hope to in the somewhat-near future, and I'm like half way through her Commando series.  I was commenting on digging into her web-site/blogs etc. 

And Dravage, nobody HAS to read anything she writes.  I honestly think few if any real haters do read anything she writes.  I don't consider myself a KT hater, she's come up with some absolutely fantastic stuff for the Mando'ade, all of which I've tryed to give her credit for when due.  I simply have issues with certain parts of her style and the girlish way she's made a sob-story of every character I've read from her up to this point and were she's taken the Mando'ade culture as a whole. 

It sucks if you were 'upset' by the fact that there are a lot of ppl who disagree with KT's ideas, but you need to appreciate that there were a LOT of possible routs that ppl could have and did envision Boba and/or the Mandalorians going based on what little yet fasinating information we had about them.  She chose her course, for better and for worse, and a lot of ppl were left with a totally different culture and Boba then they'd worshiped for a long time.  She broke that mysterious vail that had shrouded both the Mando'ade and Boba and gave them a solid concrete story; one that completely contradicts what a LOT of fans wanted. 

Not that they all wanted the same thing.  This was going to happen no matter what story was given to the Mando'ade and Boba.  Hell, there's a very large chunk of ppl who didn't want any solid story at all.  It was that mystery they liked.  Toes were going to be stepped on no matter what.  You're very lucky if she's done something you totally approve of and love, and more power to you if you want her to keep writing.  I just hoppe you'll keep in mind that the coin could have flipped the other way, and that you wouldn't be happy either if she'd jacked up your idea of the Mandos and Fett but had made me or Miba perfectly happy

lol she had no right? Im sure that fat pay check signed by George Lucas says otherwise.

Im amazed that people complain about what Boba Fett had become due to the books and comics in the EU. Fine you dont have to believe it... That simply mean Boba Fett was a little punk with like 2 lines, 15 minutes of air time. and couldnt control his jet pack and DIED like a tool. Is that the cut and dry, black and white character your in love with? God forbind anyone give him character.

oh and my bet is that the second season of Clone wars shows a unified Mandalorian nation fighting against the republic (which is why they are going ofter obi-wan in the trailer). This means the cuy'cal dar never happened, no Mandalorian trained clones, no RC series.

Agreed. But think about it this way, maybe someone will write about how during the Galactic Civil War the Empire destroyed Sundari which is why Fenn Shysa's Mandos lived in Keldabe as the new capitol? No one ever said Keldabe was centuries old or anything. So that I think could be fixed.

As far as guidance, I agree the clone wars team just must not give a damn about anything they do because surely some intern for the show could go "hey guys according to wookiepedia this is nothing what Mandalore is like, and we should really give Karen Traviss a call if we have any questions before we CRAP ALL OVER EVERYTHING" lol

Eloquently put. 

But yes I wholeheartedly agree with Manji.  I really hope (although knowing what has happened to Boba in the past concerning books and movies *cough*Jaster Mereel backstory *cough* GL cares nothing for the Expanded Universe) he realizes how many true fans all of the EU books have brought in as opposed to the 4 year old children who don't know the difference between a mynock and a mythosaur.

Ah well.  We can complain all we want but ultimately it all comes down to George Lucas anyway so we might as well try to appreciate the fact we are getting some Mandalorian screen time.

Ok, is This comment the only source of all the fear on this thread?  Or is there some solid link anybody has handy that shows that Mando history is gonna get rewritten....again

I mean, even if there is some basis for all this dispair, the information I've read here doesn't sound ALL that bad yet *although I'm very aware of how bad it COULD get, knowing Lucas and his past disreguard for the EU.*  But bear with me for a minute:

1.  Acording to Dose, he 'bets' that the second season of Clone Wars will show a unified Mandalorian nation fighting the Republic. 

Um, that doesn't contradict the existing EU by very damn much.  For those who havn't heard, most armored and armed Mandos are MERCS!  The Cuy'Val dar COULD have happened, not only because Mercs hire out for the best money but Also because they happend 10 FREEKIN YEARS BEFORE THE WAR!!!  Second, a UNIFIED Mandalorian Nation could be interpreted in several different ways, many of which fall perfectly into line with existing EU.  First, KT herself wrote in True Colors that the Planet Mandalore was hostile ground for the Jedi/Republic; hell the only Mando actually working hands on with them is Skirata that I can think of off hand.  I can't recall exact references, but I'm pretty damn sure she states in other passages that most Mandos had sided with the Seps precisely BECAUSE they were gunning for the Jedi and the Republic *lovely history that these cultures have with each other*.  Reguardless, most if not all of KT's Commando series could still stand I believe.

And also, lets not forget Mandalore the Resurrector.  This, IF they choose to honor the EU *but hell, who am I kidding; but we can always hope right?  Or at least explain FOR Them that this is what happend,* could very well be that 'unified' Mandalorian assult being referenced, if it exists at all

2.  Again, I'll need to see some source material to know what's going on about Keldabe being somehow replaced as capital of Mandalore *if that happens, I'll be pissed...*  HOWEVER, to address Manji's concerns, large cities are Very possible on Mandalore.

Lets not forget, Mandalore is home to an ANCIENT civilization, one that once dominated and nearly conquered the Entire Galaxy!  The "nomad" lifestyle has been one of my longest touchy spots against KT; as a fan of the KotOR era Mandos, I didn't feel that it was a true refelction of who they were and what they did.  However, I gave up the point and agreed that they had changed over the years INTO a much more traditionally nomadic people.  That being said, during their golden era of conquest and glory, they very easily could have constructed MONSTEROUSLLY large cities if they'd wanted to.  Much of that could have been reclaimed by the jungle over the last 4 thousand years, and perhaps they weren't all that industrious in the first place with all their conquesting adventures.  But SOME cities *including the VERY ancient City of Bone *which I'd always though WAS Keldabe, or at least Part of Keldabe was the City of Bone...another reason I'll be pissed if they change that* of large scale could possiblely, if not very likely, still exist.

Long story short, I totally agreen with Sev.  We all know how easy GL finds it to step on the EU on his way to the bank.  However, based on my stated observations above, I wouldn't start freeking out just yet

And I would have been ok with that if it meant not having her mess everything up. She's just written a fanfiction that blew way out of proportion.

Yeah the commando books could have been better. I agree.

*sigh* Sadly I think I agree with you. As awful as her stuff is at least it's not being seen by innocent children who don't know any better.

Looks like there might be a final Imperial Commando book after all. 

http://forums.starwars.com/thread.jspa? … start=1155

At least they'll end the series instead of leaving us hanging.

Well, they haven't released the name of the author yet because they're still working out the contract, so I'm still hoping it will be Traviss.  There was scuttlebutt that the author is trying to work at getting two Star Wars books in their contract and since KT had originally been slated to do a Post-Legacy Boba Fett book, I'm hoping it's for that one.

It definitely won't be Traviss