Spartans and Mandalorians (Page 1 of 2)

I always saw the Spartans as an amazing story, mostly because it is true. (not everything in the movie, artistic liscence and all)

I'd say that the Spartans were better in their time than the Madalorians were in theirs. 300 Spartans took on the Persians and held ground for much longer than they should have. Finally they were just overwhelmed with too many arrows and soldiers. The ending was very close to the "true" story though.

The Persians were seen as an unstoppable force. They controlled the Immortals, huge beasts, and anyting you could image. But 300 spartans still held their own, not to mention that they completely obliterated them when they came back in full force. I do not recall the Madalorians have ever completeing such a feat.

This may belong in Role Playing.

Outline, care to say why?

Compared in their own times, I'd say the Spartans. The Mandalorians have much better weopanry that the Spartans could not compete with, but they were better in their own time than the Mandalorians were in theirs'. And the Spartans were extremely disciplined. There is a tale of a Spartan boy who hid a fox under his cloak. The fox, while trying to escape, dug itself into the boy's side. The boy showed no signs of pain at all, until he collapsed, dead.

Don't mandalorians also have pretty much the same lifestyle though?

The Mandalorians saw their family and battle as important. The Spartans saw battle and death at the hands of a worthy adversary above all as the main reason for living. A spartan would never show pain of any sort, and their wives would tell them, "Come home with your shield, or on it." Meaning return victorious or dead. There was no surrender, no retreat, no cowardice of any kind. If you did not fit the profile, you were... "discarded"

Haha, Draco, am I getting the vibe that you don't enjoy the new Fett/mandalorians that Traviss is putting into her books?

Let's not go by reference of Karen Traviss, what then?  Would the mandalorians be the equivalent of the spartans? 

In a Star Wars insider magazine I read it talks of the mandalorian culture, and I feel like they have tons in common.

I wouldn't say anyone is stupid just because of their opinion in a speculative situation like this.

My opinionis this:
Spartans were more impressive in their time than the Mandalorians were in theirs.
Mandalorians would obviously win if they got in a fight, because they have way advanced technology.
If the Spartan culture was transplanted into SW time zone, I would say that the two groups would be very similar. But I still believe the Spartans have the advantage, they just have a more rigerous life style. But in the end, I think they would reject the idea of blasters and all use vibroblades.

In their time, the Spartans were probably better than the Mandos, as much as I hate to say it. The cultures still have their similarities, though,

Ya, not much of a battle. One thermal detonator could take out the whole line of Spartans. They wouldn't have a chance, so that is why we were concentrating more on culture and fighting skill instead of tech.

Spartan Hoplites wore helmets, chest plates, the metal skirts, and leg armor. But these were all optional pieces of armor that were a soldiers own choice to wear or not to wear. The shield was the only piece of armor that meant anything. Without the shield the Phalanx would fail and so would the Spartan line. So that is why it was said to "Come back with your shield or upon it."

In the movie, it shows the Spartans wearing some armor, but I believe Leonidus is the only one to be seen in full garb at one point. Just to make him look more awesome.

300  (the movie) is based off of a Frank Miller (Mr.Sin City) comic depecting the tale. So the movie is done to look much like the graphics of the book,much like Sin City was. Lots of darks and lights, and monotone colors and what not.

I think the two societies have alot in common. They certainly are both stubborn as hell.

The spartans were inhumane.

Females were treated as equals in Sparta, they just did not fight but they did go through gymnastics and they also went through some physical training and melee combat training