Is evolution real? Is evolution true? (Page 1 of 4)

Are we allowed to debate the scientific theories and beliefs as well? Cause I don't think there would be any constructive agreements if we have to put up with religious interdictions and stuff

Anyway: I'm an atheist and to me it's totally natural for species to interact and evolve side by side, sometimes in eachother's pockets (and meals ) but I'm against certain points in pure Darwinism... Like, saying that killing others that are different is the way to live on? 'the struggle to survive'..... No thanks.

from Africa and then to the Middle East ("Islam" is a religion ), and the Bible start with the genesis, and basically that's where God created Earth, so what you said doesnt make any sense I guess you meant the place where Jesus was born?... that's the Middle East too

Well it looks like there's 2 people who are Christians here.....

yeah, well I dont believe alot of things in the Bible. I'm not THAT christain. I'm going to see the DaVinci Code tommorow

. Well, ya know, I really dont care about religion. Ya just gotta live life by the fullest, and go by your concence. Just be the best person you can be. And if you do that, you'll succeed in earthly happiness.:) That.........is what I believe.

                                                                        {MW} TW

It would be smart to stick to the subject on this one, guys Religion is one of the touchiest topics on forums, and we don't want to start fights over that.

For my part: I respect a person's belief if they respect my own views and won't try to make them change. I can't change what's written in the Bible (no one can), but science... that's another thing. It evolves, because people try to perfect their theories about their knowledge of nature. If you want to "believe" in science, I suggest that you document yourself on the questions that trouble you in particular, but asking for someone to develop each point to you until you start thinking that it's the truth?.... I think it would be impossible. If you want to find answers, or to find "the truth", you have to find out on your own

We only believe what we think is best by our own standards. I hope I didn't go too deep in philosophy here

I agree with that last statement I have a friend... well, had a friend who is a Roman Catholic and whatever we spoke about was going perfectly fine until she told me about her religion. Then everything she told me afterwards (while discussing history, politics, etc) had bad connotations to me, being agnostic but not totally ignorant of christiannism I could deceipher the things she said that could come from a book or from religious dogmas...... Yet again, she's a smart person and always eager to know more and more about everything, always seeking the truth somehow. And then she tells me she's actively religious. Now why did that sound wrong to me? I tried being totally honest with her and tried to talk it over... but we don't chat anymore.

I just don't believe that anybody who really wants to know the truth can stick to 1 answer for the rest of his life and be happy with it. Myself I believe in evolution, in the "Big bang", anti-matter, quantum leaps, infinite dimensions, etc... I like the fact that everything I know now could be different tomorrow. The only thing I'm sure about is that in a couple of centuries we will be very different from now (cybernetics? genetic mutations? hormonal disfunctions?...)

I don't believe in evolution. I heard a theory once.... In the bible, I think it says that to God one day is a thousand years to us (or something like that), and that what's really going on is that when God created the world in seven "days", it was actually 7,000 years. (I think is how that would work out? Maybe I'm wrong and it was a thousand days?) And therefore, evolution people are saying things evolved when really it was only one more day of God's work. Also, if we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys? Why has nothing evolved in the last hundred years or so? Why do humans in the old days look more or less how we look now?

But, I think that this thread'll get locked fast, these sorts of threads don't last long without a fight starting. I almost didn't even click on it at all.

Well, I remember from science classes in high school that our planet was created 4.5 billion years in the solar system. 1 billion years = 1000 million years The homo sapiens species that evolved from australopithecus (that dates from 2.7 million years ago) has appeared far later.

You see we didn't come from chimpanzees, we evolved from another family of apes that had mutated into what became us, while on another side the chimpanzees, babboons (sp?), gorillas, etc. remained what they were. There are millions of species who did not evolve as fast as we did. Take alligators, sharks, whales for example.

Evolution and mutations happen because of climate, vital needs and biological environments. The Earth turns around the sun the same way that electrons rotate around atom cores. But that doesn't mean that every planet has to turn the same way (Mercury turns the other way around, by the way) and living species don't need to do the same thing at the same time. The universe is a huge chaos, but it's also one whole that sticks together thanks to a force, and that force I just call it.... The Force

Which reminds me a joke......

What do you get with you cross bigfoot with a missing Zelda cartridge?
A missing link.

Yes, like Daenna said, according to evolutionary theory humans and chimpanzees (as well as the other great apes) have a common ancestor, and the line of descendency split into two major branches.  We don't see chimps evolving because evolution happens so slowly (and we're in the system), and also because evolution comes as a response to environmental changes which open up new niches.  Niches are sort of like roles that a creature can play in the ecosystem--living in the trees and eating fruit, for example.  Some of our ancestors took to the trees and became chimps, others lived on the savannah and became humans.

Disclaimer: Although I am an Anthropology major, I believe in a literal, 6-day Biblical creation, which makes going to college really unpleasant.  I just lost my 4.0 for the first time in my entire life because my Darwin professor wanted to make an example of me.  But anyway, that's another story.

Aww, don't be intimidated by the scary mobs! I'm curious to know everybody's opinion on evolution, and also want to be reassured that I'm not defending a lost cause

To those who don't believe or disagree in evolution theories: what would be so bad about it if they were true?

Are you okay with thinking that we descent from apes?

....That themselves are descending from mice?

...Which would mean that we're all just a bunch of very sophisticated rodents?

Well, I believe that MICRO-evolution is true, just not MACRO-evolution. (I only put it in bold to specify )