Topic: Jango Fett...Dissapointing...hmmm...

As I was reading over some comments on Jango Fett's character, I came across such comments as "He was puny, pathetic." Now please forgive me if this is not the exact quote, but I believe the point has been undoubtedly made, some consider Jango "pathetic". I don't expect Jango to be as cold and ruthless as his son by any means, they are two separate sentient beings. Keep in mind Jango was indeed commander of the Mandalore army and had developed himself a name, which at that time, was almost equal to Boba Fett's title in his own period. Jango was not "puny or pathetic" by any means, just not the supperb equal his son would later become.

I am certain that the Jango insulting posts that you read are mine, and I never once said that he was puny. Did you notice that nearly all of the Mandalorians lead by Jango were slain?

Jango was certainly a better Mandalore....

How so? Boba's Mandalorians did not get wiped out.

Well in Bloodlines it kind of shows what kind of Mandalore Boba is being....

he doesn't know the language for a start which although isn't a major problem shows how much he's actually interested in learning about his culture...
He doesn't really go on campaigns with his Mandalorians or lead them as Mandalore the Ultimate or Indomtiable did.... (Apart from of course in the Yuuzhan Vong War)

He doesn't go to the planet very often.

It occurs to me that Mandalorians would prefer a life with the risk of being wiped out at every turn... Thats why when they were defeated in the Mandalorian Wars they did not hate Revan but instead admired him for beating them....Although he didn't wipe them out....

i agree w/humorbot.... one of the mandalorians (think his names beviin or something?) tells fett right to his face that he's a bad mandalore....

In Jango's time the Mandalorians were alreay being wiped off the face of the galaxy from what i understand. It was inevitable that the Mando'a would be darned eventually.
I don't think Jango is puny or some little moron off in the cornor doodling somthing.
I'm just hoping this doesn't turn out to be some flaming arguement considering our different view on things.

Jango has bested and slain Jedi Masters in single combat. They're aren't many who can boast that ability.

But Boba has to from what i hear.

i hope thats something they'll show in the star wars tv show.... boba hunting down jedi.... killing hundreds of the little bastards...

Exactly. I don't think there is much argument to say that Boba is a better Mandalore than Jango...

That doesn't mean Boba isn't a greater Bounty Hunter or a better fighter... Just not as good a Mandalore.

totally agree.

Has Boba killed Jedi Knights or Masters? I'm not up to speed on Boba in the EU. Who did he waste?

The Slave I's walls were decorated with Jedi heads.

Has Boba killed Jedi with his bare hands like Jango had in Open Seasons? I'm not sure if it was mentioned anywhere or not.

There wernt any other wars as far as i know.

Boba deffinatly has killed Jedi not necceceralyl with his bare hands but he could since his hand to hand combat skills are better than Jangos.

What?! When? I had always thought it would be cool if the braids that Fett wore were from padawans instead of Wookies, but...heads? I don't know about who created that concept.

I like Jango. Not as much as Boba Fett, and I most likely never will. But I think Jango, though not cool in every way, was cool in his own, confident, violent, simple kind of way. He had some pretty cool accomplishments and has been depicted pretty well in a few places (some more than others).

I know it's not the popular theory, but I still think he's pretty cool.

And I like the theory that Boba Fett didn't obsess over the Mandalorians and the culture. He is Boba Fett. It wasn't a need or requirement and any army that cannot function without the exact presence of their leader, probably shouldn't be fighting in the first place. Besides...

At the end of it all...I'd like to think Boba Fett would stand alone.

...*sigh*...Everyone tends to see and view the characters in their favorite light, and there are so very many different interpretations...

Actually, Jango was physically stronger than Boba is, and Jango's hand-to-hand combat skills are better. But I don't really like Jango much anymore..... he seems kinda weak to me now.....after what I read about him........

Boba does rely on his mind more than Jango did, but how do you know that Jango is stronger? Gojan, the heads were in a comic.

I read that there are only a handfull of men who could beat Boba in hand to hand combat.

1. That was about Boba exclusivly, so you cannot compare that to Jango.
2. What you read was Solo saying "There are only a handful of people who can beat Fett in a fair fight."
3. The quote was in a semi-canon "Tales" comic.

Well visably Jango looks much stronger. Of course Boba is cooler, but I'll have to give brute strength to Jango.

Name 3.

Well, that could just be the actor, Gustavo.

Look at the Terminator movies, and look at Arnold. Then look at Bruce Lee. First impression, Arnold is huge... ala he would kick Bruce Lee's ass? Never. It doesn't come down to strength or looks, it comes down to skills and tactics.

Not to be a party pooper, but haven't we all ready had multiple conversations about this?

Well than 1 more will only add to the flames of our passionate discussions =P.

In TBHW it also says Boba has amazing reflexes so it wouldnt just be about strength as Fetterthanyou said. Boba deffinatly has some strength he knockes Dengar across the cabin of slave 1 with one strike in Hard Merchandise and lets not forget Dengar has inharnced strength and speed.

So? Even Bossk has beaten Boba before. Boba sucks. Just kidding! :)

When did Bossk beat Boba. If you mean what i think you mean that wasnt a fight.

Yeah! When DID Bossk beat Boba? I didn't read of anyone saying that. Further, while he may not seem as impressive as Boba I would hardly call Jango disappointing. Jango did accomplish a lot in his time and Boba expaned from there.

Yeah, so. Jango is still probably stronger than Boba.

If you noticed, I didn't say Jango would kick Boba's ass. I merely said Jango was stronger than Boba. Perhaps you should pay attention to detail.

bossk is a freak lizard with a great deal more strength than a human, wookies and trandoshians(not sure on spelling) are an even match. boba is a quick thinker, and will outsmart most opponents, jango is a bit more reckless, but anybody who can hold there own against obi, is a force to be reckoned with.

Jango is probably stronger than Boba ey where's the proof?

i think jango would be a good mandalore and boba should go on doing his thing. also with the jedi head decorating the slave 1? "shudder, shudder" i thought boba would be the type not to have to show off his awsome skills, and i think he would have like collected there lightsabers or something

Yeah he did collect there lightsabers i think that comic is only partly canon but there are lots of referances to Boba killing Jedi.

Now hold on just one bleeding moment.  jango is NOT by ANY means even CLOSE to being stronger than Boba.  Boba's an exact clone, he could only be stronger, since his strength training started at an earlier age than Jango.  In fact, in the book jango fett vs. the razor eaters, Jango said Boba was stronger than he had been as a kid, so it only makes sense to assume Boba would be stronger than Jango as an adult as well.  And as far as Bossk beating Boba goes, that's total B.S, in the shadows of the empire comic, Bossk tries to corner Boba, and Boba promptly socks Bossk in the face, quickly flooring him.  What does that tell you about how strong Boba is?

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That tells me that Boba can knock out Bossk, not that he is stronger than Bossk.

He didnt say Boba was stronger.

I think Jango was awsome ,but Boba is a little better.

NO, I meant it like if Boba and Jango were arm wrestling, Jango would win. Not in a fight, by any means, but Jango has stronger muscles. It even said that on the Wookieepedia and/or Wikipedia.

Wikis are not trust worthy at all.

Where is the proof that Boba is stronger? Also, Jango is stronger because I remember reading somewhere that Boba did no train that much physically because he believes in wit over muscle.

While that may be true, Boba is also still alive, so maybe there is something to this "Brain over Brawn" thing.

I did not say there was proof Boba is stronger  but being able to floor a Trandoshan isnt somthing you can do unless your strong. Boba is suposed to be a master of the fighting style terasi kai.

It definately does take some effort to drop a Trando. Especially one like Bossk.

And just because Boba decided to be smart, doesn't mean he wasn't strong. There is no evidence (that I know of, but I'm guessing it never says "Boba lifted the rock, but Jango could not have") either way on the subject of actual strength. But then again, it doesn't matter who is in fact stronger. Jango had his redeaming points, although Draco would argue that statement, and I wouldn't say he was "dissapointing." But don't start making up facts about how he is stronger to try to plead his case, use evidence.

ps. IG-88 I think you mean teras kasi. The unarmed figthing style that balances both offense and defense.

Yeah thats it :). But basically i would say Jango is disapointing but in some ways he's ok thats my oppinion.

I think peole are thinking that I'm saying Jango is better than Boba because he's stronger. I'm not. In fact I strongly support wit over muscle. Also just because I'm saying Jango is stronger doesn't mean that Boba is as weak. In fact Boba is almost as strong as Jango. Oh and for the record, Jango could beat up a trandoshan too. But I will admit this as well, Jango's overall talent isn't that great when compared to Bobas talent, but Jango was still a great warrior.

I didn't think that, I was just wondering how you knew that Jango is stronger. I just wondered where you got that information from.

Not trying to be rude, I wasn't pointing you out specifically.

well Gustavo, boba is jango's clone (obviously) so wouldnt that mean that there equally in strenght size and wieght? plus boba is always wearing armour you never really get a look at his muscles