Topic: SW vs LotR

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August 1, 2007 9:51 pm #

What series do you think is better? Star Wars or Lord of the Rings?

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August 1, 2007 10:11 pm #

As a big fan of both I am cut right down the middle.  I would have to say Star Wars purely because of all the Expanded Universe stuff.  Yes I know you have Sillmarillion and Lost Tales and more recently Children of Hurin (which I have yet to read).  But me I like stuff after the main events, which is why I enjoy The New Jedi Order and Legacy of the Force series.  The appendixes in Return of the King aren't enough to satisfy my craving.

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August 1, 2007 11:55 pm #

you really can't compare these two. As a critic, yea. But these are two completely different fantasies. It's easier to compare SW to Star Trek or anything else taking in space. But LotR is completely different.

August 2, 2007 11:48 am #

I can't even decide because they are both unique and great in their own ways. I love em both, but I only have Star Wars tattoos so I guess SW gets an extra point in my book. ;)

"Maybe I'd have grown up a nice guy if a Jedi hadn't cut my dad's head off in front of me."
August 2, 2007 12:11 pm #

i like em both, but when i read the topic i thought you ment like a battle, but that wouldnt be much of a discussion would it?
for now, im gona say Star Wars,

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August 2, 2007 1:43 pm #

Even though I like Star wars more, I think Lord of the Rings has a better meaning to it then Star Wars.

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August 2, 2007 1:44 pm #

and music, like "requiem for a dream" (spelling?)

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August 2, 2007 1:59 pm #

I dont know, star wars gots good music too.

(but i like requiem for a dream too)

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August 4, 2007 6:45 am (Edited August 4, 2007 06:48 am) #

I think that there is major differences in both but there has been alot of discussion about the hero's of each and the way that they differ. Luke goes head first and recklessly into his destiny as a way to escape the life he would lead on tattoine yet Frodo is reluctant and only accepts his destiny because he is the ring barer. he did not go out of his way to find adventure, he would of rather be at home in Bagend smoking some longbottom pipe weed!
    In saying that, I love starwars and the l.o.t.r is the only movies that have come close to the holy trilogy! But the books are another matter all together!!!

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August 4, 2007 9:01 am #

star wars....

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August 4, 2007 12:11 pm #

Ouch! What a choice. I love them both, but my heart first belonged to Star Wars so I'll  vote Star Wars ( With a close second.)

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August 4, 2007 2:10 pm #

I believe Clerks II said it best... But since this is a family site I cannot quote or give a link to show what I mean... but they have a great scene where the one guy just lays waste to the LOTR movies.

Truthfully though, I liked LOTR, but they were a little too drawn out for my tastes.

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August 4, 2007 2:21 pm #
Fetterthanyou wrote:

I believe Clerks II said it best... But since this is a family site I cannot quote or give a link to show what I mean... but they have a great scene where the one guy just lays waste to the LOTR movies.

Truthfully though, I liked LOTR, but they were a little too drawn out for my tastes.

Is there a site where I can see that scene? I also like the line "theres only one return, and its of the Jedi."....i saw that in the commercials

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August 4, 2007 3:45 pm #
Valthonin wrote:

Is there a site where I can see that scene? I also like the line "theres only one return, and its of the Jedi."....i saw that in the commercials

Try youtube, clerks 2 lotr... but fair warning, there is a lot of cursing and such.

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August 4, 2007 5:13 pm (Edited August 4, 2007 05:13 pm) #
Fetterthanyou wrote:
Valthonin wrote:

Is there a site where I can see that scene? I also like the line "theres only one return, and its of the Jedi."....i saw that in the commercials

Try youtube, clerks 2 lotr... but fair warning, there is a lot of cursing and such.

Its ok im a big boy :), thanks

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I am a Role Playing Gamer, like my father before me.
August 17, 2007 2:20 pm (Edited August 18, 2007 11:26 am) #

each one counts as the # of movies
and each "awesome" character counts as 2.

LoTR:
-awesome special effects
-brilliant characters
-excellent writing
-want to watch it overandoveragain!
-Aragorn and Legolas rule!

Star Wars:
-decent special effects
-okay characters (exception: 4)
-not that good writing (sorry, George...) (exception: 4)
-seen it. (exception: 4)
-Boba Fett rules!

LoTR: 16
Star Wars: 5

Lord of the Rings wins!
yay!

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Coming to theaters whenever George Lucas dies.
August 17, 2007 5:05 pm #

HA! Clerks, I have a friend who did that whole LOTR Walking thing as a joke to my sister (he was trying to impress her) and a few of my other friends and they were laughing so hard. I was laughing because they had no clue that he was ripping it word for word.

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August 17, 2007 5:21 pm #
Jodo Kast wrote:

each one counts as the # of movies
and each "awesome" character counts as 2.

LoTR:
-awesome special effects
-brilliant characters
-excellent writing
-want to watch it overandoveragain!
-Aragorn and Legolas rule!

Star Wars:
-decent special effects
-okay characters
-not that good writing (sorry, George...)
-seen it.
-Boba Fett rules!

LoTR: 16
Star Wars: 2

Lord of the Rings wins!
yay!

What...?  i do not understand your score system (which is completely illegible)

Since LOTR is a trilogy (not counting the hobbit) I'll just use the original trilogy of SW.

Special Effects = If you are talking about the original trilogy, it had the most groundbreaking special effects of any movie ever. While Jackson had some fine effects, nothing awe-inspiring.

Characters= Han Solo, Boba Fett, Darth Vader... vs. Frodo (an irritating midget), Gimli (see last comment), and Legolas (Actually he was cool)

Writing= Star Wars had one of the most epic turning points in movie history (I am you're father). Gotta admit LOTR has great writing... but Jackson didn't write it, J.R.R. Tolkien did. So theres the advantage.

???...??? = "-want to watch it overandoveragain!" "-Seen it" (????)

Didn't you already do characters?

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August 18, 2007 5:09 am #

Rofl, i love them both but i have to go with SW too.

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August 18, 2007 10:34 am #
Fetterthanyou wrote:
Jodo Kast wrote:

each one counts as the # of movies
and each "awesome" character counts as 2.

LoTR:
-awesome special effects
-brilliant characters
-excellent writing
-want to watch it overandoveragain!
-Aragorn and Legolas rule!

Star Wars:
-decent special effects
-okay characters
-not that good writing (sorry, George...)
-seen it.
-Boba Fett rules!

LoTR: 16
Star Wars: 2

Lord of the Rings wins!
yay!

What...?  i do not understand your score system (which is completely illegible)

Since LOTR is a trilogy (not counting the hobbit) I'll just use the original trilogy of SW.

Special Effects = If you are talking about the original trilogy, it had the most groundbreaking special effects of any movie ever. While Jackson had some fine effects, nothing awe-inspiring.

Characters= Han Solo, Boba Fett, Darth Vader... vs. Frodo (an irritating midget), Gimli (see last comment), and Legolas (Actually he was cool)

Writing= Star Wars had one of the most epic turning points in movie history (I am you're father). Gotta admit LOTR has great writing... but Jackson didn't write it, J.R.R. Tolkien did. So theres the advantage.

???...??? = "-want to watch it overandoveragain!" "-Seen it" (????)

Didn't you already do characters?

it's just my way of saying Star Wars doesn't even begin to compare to Lord of the Rings in my book!

don't take it so seriously!

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Coming to theaters whenever George Lucas dies.
August 18, 2007 11:20 am #
Jodo Kast wrote:

it's just my way of saying Star Wars doesn't even begin to compare to Lord of the Rings in my book!

don't take it so seriously!

I don't take too many things seriously, especially topics like this. I was just showing why I think SW is much better.

And I still don't understand your scoring system...

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August 18, 2007 11:24 am #

okay, i came up with 4 main topics and a bonus fifth topic.

each of the 4 were worth the number of movies that series had.

the fifth, for each one i added, was worth 2 each.

actually, i need to rescore it.

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August 18, 2007 9:37 pm #

Book: Lotr
Movie: both
Everything Else: Star Wars

And, to point out a very certain fact, Lord of the Rings is not a trilogy. It is one story, separated into three books. i.e.: the second book is called The Two Towers, not LotR 2: The Two Towers. The latter would make it a sequel.

August 19, 2007 10:42 am #
Fett_II wrote:

Book: Lotr
Movie: both
Everything Else: Star Wars

And, to point out a very certain fact, Lord of the Rings is not a trilogy. It is one story, separated into three books. i.e.: the second book is called The Two Towers, not LotR 2: The Two Towers. The latter would make it a sequel.

Book wise that is true, but the movies are a trilogy.

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August 19, 2007 4:12 pm #

that's because Peter Jackson wanted to not go by how the books were written. And if J.R.R. Tolkien said it's not a Trilogy (even his son, Christopher re-prints it in newer editions), then their words are above all others. Like, in example, if George Lucas were to pronounce that all six Star Wars movies are in fact gothic, then we'd have no choice but to accept it.

August 19, 2007 5:27 pm #

That is not exactly true; Tolkien may have not intended it as a trilogy, but that does not make it not a trilogy. We still have to go by facts such as definitions.

take it easy baby take it as it comes
August 19, 2007 5:45 pm #

if you read some books, like many Stephen King novels he devides them into sections, this is realy what Tolkien did. So when saying its a trilogy we mean a trillogy of sections. Just because they are released as separate books today does not mean that what they were originaly said to be has changed.

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August 19, 2007 7:03 pm #

But in being released in three different books makes it a trilogy. "Chronicles of Riddick: Dark Fury" comes lliterally right after "Pitch Black," story wise. These, along with "Chronicles of Riddick" are considered a trilogy, despite the "Dark Fury" being an extension of "Pitch Black."

take it easy baby take it as it comes
August 20, 2007 12:44 pm #
Fett_II wrote:

that's because Peter Jackson wanted to not go by how the books were written. And if J.R.R. Tolkien said it's not a Trilogy (even his son, Christopher re-prints it in newer editions), then their words are above all others. Like, in example, if George Lucas were to pronounce that all six Star Wars movies are in fact gothic, then we'd have no choice but to accept it.

So by your logic I can write 2 books, and call them a trilogy. And It will in fact be a trilogy? Because I said so. Being the author does not allow your word to be magically true.

Trilogy = a set of three literary or dramatic works related in subject or theme. (actually dates back to ancient greece...)

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Hail to the King Baby!!
August 20, 2007 12:46 pm #

wow.

i'd say "get a life", but that seems ironic considering we're on a site devoted entirely to a fictional bounty hunter and are talking about him.

get a life.

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Coming to theaters whenever George Lucas dies.
August 20, 2007 12:57 pm #
Jodo Kast wrote:

wow.

i'd say "get a life", but that seems ironic considering we're on a site devoted entirely to a fictional bounty hunter and are talking about him.

get a life.

1. Who are you talking to?
2. Why?
3. You made a list of reasons why LOTR was better than SW... and you seriously think you can say, "get a life" to anyone?"

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Hail to the King Baby!!
August 20, 2007 1:03 pm #

let's slap him!

August 20, 2007 1:18 pm #

ow! stop it! ow!

oh, and as to why i made that list...i'm organized! okay?

(i was joking earlier...)

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