Topic: Bullets and lightsabers

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February 4, 2007 7:38 pm #

Havent you ever wonder what would happen if regular bullets hit a light saber? I think they would melt or shrink and go out the otherside cause they move so fast.

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February 4, 2007 7:42 pm (Edited February 4, 2007 07:43 pm) #

Well, because of the scene where Qui-gon cuts through the blast door with a lightsaber, I surmize that the bullets would simply disintegrate (or whatever the technical term is) completely on contact. Not much of a contest there really, but the lightsaber couldn't deflect the shots back at anyone so...

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February 4, 2007 8:24 pm #
Gojan Fett wrote:

Well, because of the scene where Qui-gon cuts through the blast door with a lightsaber, I surmize that the bullets would simply disintegrate (or whatever the technical term is) completely on contact. Not much of a contest there really, but the lightsaber couldn't deflect the shots back at anyone so...

Yes I agree.

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February 4, 2007 8:28 pm #

When fighting a Jedi your best option is usually a slug thrower simply because unlike blaster bolts they do not richochet. Sure they get melted into slag...or nothing at all. Plus you can have a shield on and slugs'll pass right through it without having to turn it off or bounce back.

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February 5, 2007 2:54 am #

I think most bullets would melt but some would pass through. You'd have to be a good shot with a rapid fire weapon to hit a Jedi, me thinks :D

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February 5, 2007 5:36 am (Edited February 5, 2007 05:37 am) #

Since both lightsabers and blasters are energy weapons and a bullet is a projectile. The lightsaber is able to deflect the energy of the blaster shot but if you were to used a large enough round then not all of the bullet would melt as it passed through the beam of the lightsaber and would cause damage to the person on the other side.

February 5, 2007 8:41 am #

What about the Jedi reflexes? They would use the force to see where bullets will hit and would probably be able to use the force to move themselves away or move the bullets away.

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February 5, 2007 10:27 am #
Maltese Kentaiba wrote:

When fighting a Jedi your best option is usually a slug thrower simply because unlike blaster bolts they do not richochet. Sure they get melted into slag...or nothing at all. Plus you can have a shield on and slugs'll pass right through it without having to turn it off or bounce back.

Excactly what I was gunna say, which is why I think Nym was so keen on using his slugthrower most of the time.

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February 6, 2007 4:08 am #

if the jedi was good enough he could pull a neo.  use the force to enhance his perceptions, esentially slowing time around him (luke did this in shadows of the empire when fighting guri).  he could then manipulate each bullet flying at him, slowing them, and stopping them before they impacted.

February 6, 2007 1:25 pm #

ya, or deflect them like Vader does to Han's blaster bolt. I never really liked that part though, because it made it look like it was really unnessicary to use your lightsaber as a tool againt blasters.

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February 6, 2007 2:18 pm #

But most Jedi, Sith, etc. are not as powerful as Vadar.

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February 6, 2007 4:11 pm #
draco fett wrote:

But most Jedi, Sith, etc. are not as powerful as Vadar.

yeah, and besides Vader's arms are robotic with that outer covering of armor which is really strong, strong enough to survive in space.

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February 6, 2007 4:54 pm #

In Clone Wars Obi-Wan deflected multiple laser blasts with the Force. Though we all know how CW seems to make the Jedi's power into some rediculous superpower. (like the Mace episodes, which were totally unrealistic)

I heard once somewhere that bullets were faster than lasers? But I don't know if it's true.

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February 6, 2007 5:30 pm #

Sence laser is an acronym for Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation, and light is faster than a bullet, I would say the laser is faster.

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February 6, 2007 5:51 pm #

That does make more sense, I'm not sure where I heard the other thing.

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February 6, 2007 6:05 pm #
Fetterthanyou wrote:

ya, or deflect them like Vader does to Han's blaster bolt. I never really liked that part though, because it made it look like it was really unnessicary to use your lightsaber as a tool againt blasters.

It says on wikipedia that it was only Vader's specially armored gloves that deflected the blaster bolt, and implies that it's not a force ability. I think that makes more sense, as we never see any other force users doing it. (Except for maybe the Witches of Dathomir in The Courtship of Princess Leia?)

...but ever since I've heard Draco go on about how you can't trust wikipedia...

I think the best firearm to use against a Jedi would be a shotgun. It would have to be one crazy Jedi to be able to deflect something like that, or get close enough to slice it without getting blown away.

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February 6, 2007 7:05 pm #
Gojan Fett wrote:
Fetterthanyou wrote:

ya, or deflect them like Vader does to Han's blaster bolt. I never really liked that part though, because it made it look like it was really unnessicary to use your lightsaber as a tool againt blasters.

It says on wikipedia that it was only Vader's specially armored gloves that deflected the blaster bolt, and implies that it's not a force ability. I think that makes more sense, as we never see any other force users doing it. (Except for maybe the Witches of Dathomir in The Courtship of Princess Leia?)

...but ever since I've heard Draco go on about how you can't trust wikipedia...

I think the best firearm to use against a Jedi would be a shotgun. It would have to be one crazy Jedi to be able to deflect something like that, or get close enough to slice it without getting blown away.

I think it also depends on the jedi. I mean a shotgun will obliterate a padawan anyday....

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February 6, 2007 7:33 pm #

I can believe blocking a rifle however fast it's going. But stopping each and every slug from a shotgun shell...

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February 7, 2007 7:02 pm #
draco fett wrote:

Sence laser is an acronym for Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation, and light is faster than a bullet, I would say the laser is faster.

Good point but I doubt laser bolts are traveling at the speed of light.

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February 8, 2007 12:17 am #

Lasers dont look like they arfe going very fast plus you cant see bullets.

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February 8, 2007 11:54 am #

In the movies, the lasers were visable because watching a fire-fight and not seeing the projectile would not be entertaining.

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February 8, 2007 1:35 pm #
draco fett wrote:

In the movies, the lasers were visable because watching a fire-fight and not seeing the projectile would not be entertaining.

True, but then you can't take scientific standards for lasers and apply them to these blaster bolts can you?

Really what I'm trying to say is that you can't use science to explain things in a fictional world. Because The lasers emitted from the space ships would be (in real life) invisible as there is not enough matter to scatter the particles in the vaccuum of space. But that is not true in the movies, so lets just let Fiction be fiction.

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April 14, 2007 3:50 am #

I agree with Gojan i dont even think yoda could block a shotgun blast

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April 14, 2007 8:59 am #

Here's how to avoid shotgun shells in one simple direction:

Head for the hills and cover your butt.

April 16, 2007 8:47 am #

That's gotta be nasty for the Jedi who's blocking . . . 'I'll just deflect this projectile here and- AAAAHHHG! Molten lead in my face!'  Bet they wouldn't see that coming.

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April 16, 2007 9:35 am #

ahh, that would suck, Welcome back Yautja, we missed ya.

April 17, 2007 6:57 pm #
Sev Fett wrote:
draco fett wrote:

Sence laser is an acronym for Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation, and light is faster than a bullet, I would say the laser is faster.

Good point but I doubt laser bolts are traveling at the speed of light.

They are.  Lasers in the movie, are essentially laser in real life.  If they are going to base something off of real life, they are going to have to adhere to the rules surrounding it.  If they use a laser, it would have to go at the speed of light.  Also, we do not know what is inside the guns, so there could be a device to alter the light rays, and make the beam visible for a short time.  We really don't know what technology they use for their devices, but I still say that the lasers travel at the speed of light.  The only complaint I have is WHAT'S WITH THE EXPLOSIONS IN SPACE??  There is no oxygen, and explosions are gouts of flame.  Flames need oxygen or there are none in the first place.  So why do they use explosions in space?  It just doesn't seem to make sense.  Sure it adds to the pyrotechnic display, but they could find so many other places to insert that, so why mostly in space? 
Anyways, that's just my two cents.

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April 18, 2007 6:35 pm #

*You can't hear an explosion in space.*

May 15, 2007 11:06 am #

I've always imagined bullets to go right through a lightsaber. :P

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May 15, 2007 1:42 pm #

Explosive rounds...hopefully enough kinetic and explosive energy to throw the Jedi off while you put a round through his skull. ^_^

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