Topic: Jango: Worthy to be a Fett?

Don't beat a dead horse Karson.  But really Jango had a much more honorable death.  I think that was Lucas trying to make up for Boba.

I'm not. I want to drop it. Ya know what I am done with this topic.

Man, I just had a crazy idea....What if Jango had pulled out a knife or something and blocked Windu's strike?

That would be something!

I just got this awesome action scene of Jango still fighting Mace, still losing eventually, but still.

Yeah...... I have reconsidered and Jango IS worthy to be a Fett.

....that was fast. Especially considering how vehemently you argued against it...your reasons?

I. even though the did do a crappy job as Mandolor, BUT at least he WAS Mandolor.
2. He died in battle, even though he WAS stupid to take on a great jedi master
3. His armor was full

Jango is worthy I think because he was a Mandalorian Supercommando, and trained the ARCs, some of the most hardcore soldiers in the galaxy, and he killed a lot of Jedi. Not to mention if you only look at the movies, Jango is way cooler than Boba. Jango goes head to head with Obi-Wan (one of the best jedi imho) and Mace, and slays some other random jedi. Boba just stands there mysteriously and gets knocked into a pit by a blind guy after nearly losing to the first Jedi he comes across (who according to Yoda isn't even a Jedi yet: "You must defeat Vader, then you will be a Jedi" [paraphrase]). But don't get me wrong, Boba is still my favorite and he is way cool, because of the books, mainly.

Totally agree

Based on only the movies, Jango does way more then Boba does.  He could have done even better, and should have been portrayed as a little smarter at times, but he still earns the name in my book

Come on...worthy to be a fett?He IS a Fett,and keep in mind that if he wasn't good then Boba wouldn't be good either.Not to mention Jango trained the best clone commandos and was the template for the Clone Army.Every clone respected him.Even the Jedi respected him.Kit Fisto said that Jango was a worthy and brilliant fighter...

You can't clone skill. Someone people respect Hitler. Does that mean Hitler is good?

Dispite Hitler being such a horrid thing, as i do not believe he deserves to be called a person, he made his country strong again, however he did it in the wrong way.

You can clone skill. Its part of the mind, however you have to train the body to use it.

Draco, I must say that you fail. Your points seem irrelevant to me

I agree also

No he's right.You can't clone skill.Yet they chose Jango because he was going to train them.The clones would have to learn from scratch,but they needed to learn from the BEST.;)

If you could clone skill, why don't you see millions of Draco clones?

CASE CLOSED

Clones begin as infants. Infants have to learn skill.

Because cloning humans is currently unable to be done.

CASE CLOSED

Jango fett is worthy to be a fett, have you seen what the man has done?
hes killed so amny diffrent types of ppl. he fought hand to hand with obi-wan.
he became mandalore. and hes done so much more.
Karson fett, boba fett is currently the mandalore.

I don't understand why there is so much...hate towards Jango from some people.What has he done that is so bad?He is a worthy and skilled bounty hunter,and he is the father of Boba.And he had a very glorious death.So why some say he isn't worthy? :/

I've never said he isn't worthy to be a Fett, I just stated why I don't like him.

You seem to like to argue against him being a Fett a lot.

I've never said he wasn't a Fett. I've just stated I don't like him, and defend my reasoning.

Can you remind me why you don't like him?

Oh.Never mind I still like him. :P

What honor is there in being a Fett? It is not a birth rite but a name. One that was given its reputation by the likes of Jango, that Boba merely made his own.

Jango has an importaint legacy. Those clones would not be the skilled soldiers, ARC's etc with out his genetics or knowledge. Jango was very intrumental in the development process, down to training ARC's himself, and hand selecting the Mando's that would train his elte Commando squads. To even be selected as the clone template Jango displayed impressive feats on the battle field, and survived to be chosen for the job.

I know some question his ethics., but as he said himself "Im just a simple man trying to get by in the universe" ( or something to that effect.... its early and im at work). He did many things that we question that mostly came down to an act of survial in Jango's perspective.  So I tend to excuse more.

Yes very true Si.He has an important legacy.And a very tough life if you ask me.So I don't think that a few drawbacks make Jango a bad character.And imagine training an entire army.That surely needs a lot of skill.And patience. :P

I say yes, Jango is awesome. I haven't read the Open Seasons book yet but I know his backstory and so I say he is indeed good enough.Though from what is seen in AOTC it does make him seem as if hes not as good as the legacy would have you to believe. As far as his legacy goes, he learned from and modeled himself after Jaster Mereel, and then put his own spin on things. Just as Boba did with what he learned from Jango.

I don't love Jango (not to say I don't like him) 'cause if you ask anyone besides Boba fans who was better they'd say Jango 'cause Lucas gave him much, much, much better action scenes. O.K. maybe Jango is pretty cool and besides he did show what B. looks like. I guess it's just Georges fault. He hates B!!

Jango is alright but he is too...i dont wanna say flashy but he's too flashy

That would be a major difference between Boba and Jango. However, both of them are worthy to be a Fett.

Considering both of them have the benefit of plot assistance, of course :P

Honestly, their circumstances define their characters.  While Boba's beter in my opinion, simply due to his survival nature, Jango's no slouch.  He's killed plenty of Jedi, earned the status of best bounty hunter in the galaxy by his own abilities.  He's plenty good, but unlike Boba, he went with more of a fancy flair to whatever he did.  Boba just got things done, Jango got things done with style.  And that fancy-flair-tendency is what got him in the end....along with plot device and bad writing....

Plot device and bad writing will bring a character down every time.

sad but true

I don't understand this topic; Fett is a name, not a medal of honor and bravery. And even if it would be, I think Jango would be worthy enough, he made a lot of great things.

The Fett clan is something you are born into, you don't earn it. But Jango did earn respect.

I dont mean to be rude, but in the mandalorian culture you dont have to be born into a clan to become part of it! Rep coms, Null arcs, Kal Skerata himself, all adopted into a clan. Even Jango was taken in by Jaster Mereel. Its not so much a clan or group but a family.

Well, a Clan usually is a family unit of some sort, but you are right - the Mandalorians commonly adopted outsiders into their families/clans.  However, the point of this thread I think is to debate whether or not Lucas did a good enough job to make Jango worth of the movie legacy of the Fett line.  Personally, I don't think EITHER live up to the high standards we think a Fett should be.  Instead, we follow the awesome expanded universe where they rock or make our own fanfics for them, and explain away their movie performances by saying these were the low points in their careers..

Kinda sad, but that's what I do...

OK I see. And I totally agree with what you are saying. Both Fetts were killed of in a pretty dumb way. Some may disagree but both could have been something more. Or maybe its better that not much was shown so the books and our minds could make it into something better then a movie could do?

Boba  Fett dies of old age, I think

My main issue with Jango is George's direction of Tem Morrison in the part. He LOOKS fantastic, just like I think a Mandalore should imo, but 90% of his lines are rushed and just fly out of his mouth and onto the floor, without any real depth or meaning behind them. Fett's don't just blurt anything out for the hell of it, they have a reason for it. Jason Wingreen, who did the voice work for Boba Fett in the OT, had the right idea. If Tem had followed that or even WATCHED it then surely the phenomenal "I'm just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe" wouldn't have been so utterly AWFUL.

I took acting classes Tem, they're called pauses.

I'm just a simple man
tryin to make my way in universe

thats GOOD writing, and GREAT character writing at that imo
it is a very RARE thing sometimes in a popcorn movie like the Star Wars saga

Then let's not even get into the fact that Tem had to completely butcher and crap all over Boba's lines in the OT when they over-dubbed them. Our hero no longer has the harsh, scratchy and cunning voice of a 50 year old smoker that is pissed off at Darth Vader, and instead sounds like someone gave Steve Irwin (RIP) a Margarita and stepped on his big toe before they THRUST a script in front of him and said "Here Tem, read this crap as fast as you can."
"Righto then, 'He's no good to be dead!' NEXT."

Dude.................Harsh

LOL at least Tem was a better actor than Hayden Christensen, let's face it the acting in the prequels was pretty woeful on most counts. "Sand storms are very, very dangerous" - worst line delivery ever...

Canonically, he's not dead yet.

Haven't watched AotC in a while, so I can't comment on Tem's performance. His voice acting as Boss was pretty good, though. Not interesting, like say, Sev's, but brief and military. A few lines were more interesting, though.

There are actually very different levels of canon in Star Wars
George Lucas considers only what is in his movies to be actual canon
everything else he considers a kind of 'parallel universe' (books, comics, games, etc)

I thought he considered Boba surviving the Sarlacc to be Canon.

I don't have a quote to reference, but I remember Lucas saying that "they brought him back later in the books and comics so I guess he survived"

Awesome! So Boba didn't die then! :D

No ,Boba would never die such a wimpy death!

Yeah, I agree.
He should sound like Clint Eastwood when he's pissed off, not like "Bounty Hunting is bonza!"