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April 3, 2008 1:04 pm #

Hei :D

Sorry I have not been on for a while but I have been busy.

Anyway I hope you are all funky :D

I hope this is in the right place but I was not sure where to put it :o

I would love to be able to play a game of Sabacc with Devil Boy. Are there any Sabacc decks that I can buy or are there any cards that I can print off?

Thank you in advance :D

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April 3, 2008 4:01 pm #

I would love something like this too! I know there are one or two sabacc games you can download and play on your computer, I used to have one. But a deck of cards you can buy  would be great!! Even ones to print would be nice too.

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April 3, 2008 5:37 pm #

well, a game that you could buy, complete with a deck of cards, some way to substitute for the randomizer, and complete rules, would be great. I know some basic rules, but not all.

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April 3, 2008 5:58 pm #

YES! I would love to play. I remember some of the stuff, but i would like to play it with real people. My sister ( the quiet Star Wars fan) also love card games. I know I would at least have her to play with.

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April 3, 2008 6:57 pm #
Si Titran wrote:

I know I would at least have her to play with.

Deal me in, Aliit Vod  :D

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April 5, 2008 1:25 pm #

I think it is strange how there is not a Sabacc deck permanently in circulation. I think it would be a really funky thing to get.

I have got the downloadable games but I wanted a real deck of cards so that i will be able to play a game with Devil Boy.

I think what I will have to do is make the cards myself.

Wish me luck please :)

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April 5, 2008 1:38 pm #

i used to know where to find Pazaak online.. but nothing of Sabacc.

April 5, 2008 5:08 pm #

If you still know where to find the Pazaak OL thing, can I have a link?

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April 5, 2008 6:37 pm (Edited April 5, 2008 06:40 pm) #

yea, hopefully ill be able to find it.

EDIT: FOUND IT! http://files.filefront.com/Pazaak+Online+v133+Mod/;3680016;/fileinfo.html um yea i got no idea what to do with it btw :D

April 6, 2008 2:12 pm #

Thank you Fett II :)

Unfortunately it was not what I was after.

I have made a start on making my own cards as I think it would be funky to get away from the computer and be able to play a game of Sabacc with Devil Boy.  Hehe if anything it will be fun making them :D

There are Sabacc games that you can play on your computer but as far as I am aware they are not online games.

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April 6, 2008 5:04 pm #

Ah.. i didn't even know of those. I did manage to make a pazaak deck and teach it to my sister and mom who love card games. I wonder if we could pool our minds to make "offical rule" and "deck for sabacc?

Meat is murder...... tasty tasty murder.
"Suggestion: Electrocution works well. Evisceration and Decapitation are also effective, or um, so I've heard."
April 7, 2008 4:44 am #
Si Titran wrote:

I wonder if we could pool our minds to make "offical rule" and "deck for sabacc?

That would be really funky :D

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April 7, 2008 11:42 am #

Then lets start posting the rules we do know. I'm not sure of any right now.

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"Suggestion: Electrocution works well. Evisceration and Decapitation are also effective, or um, so I've heard."
April 8, 2008 5:42 am (Edited April 8, 2008 07:52 am) #

I've been looking around the net for sabacc and pazaak. I've decided I'm going to design a deck of generic game cards. Then I will get them professionally printed. These generic game cards will might just happen to have the right type of cards to play pazaak with. I'm also going to get a set of fortune telling cards that might just happen to have the right type of cards to play sabacc with. Neither set of cards will be affiliated with Star Wars nor will they be intentionally made to be used in those games. :)

So if anyone want to buy some after I get them done. Just keep me in mind.

April 8, 2008 7:46 am #

yeah i did something similar with a standard deck of cards, creating in effect a  basic pazaak deck. It was fun but harder because I had to keep count of the numbers.

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"Suggestion: Electrocution works well. Evisceration and Decapitation are also effective, or um, so I've heard."
April 8, 2008 9:38 am #

When I played KotOr the first time through I never really got into Pazaak.  Then I didn't do half bad when playing in KotOR 2 so I tried my hand in it.  Wasn't dreadfully terrible. 

I was always more of a swoop racer anyway.  :P

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April 8, 2008 10:14 am #

We'll just have to make some real swoop bikes too.

April 8, 2008 12:09 pm #

Now there's an idea.  Swoop racing would be awesome.  Anybody know how to make a swoop bike?

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April 19, 2008 4:27 am #
Si Titran wrote:

Then lets start posting the rules we do know. I'm not sure of any right now.

That would be really funky :)

I will have a look out for some rules. I am not sure when I will be able to do this as due to Devil Boys computer dying we have to share mine.

I have made a start on making the cards. There was sadly a delay as I discovered that we had mice in our kitchen so I had to scrub it clean and get traps to catch the mice. I have caught two mice so far but there has been nothing since. I am hoping that there will not be any more for a while (fingerscrossed)

When I have done the designs I will scan the pictures and post them :D

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April 19, 2008 8:53 am (Edited April 19, 2008 08:54 am) #

Sabacc is an ancient game, dating back to the early days of the Old Republic. Of all the games of chance, sabacc is the most complex, the most unpredictable, the most thrilling- and the most heartbreaking.
The game is played with a deck of seventy-six card-chips. The value of any card-chip can alter throughout the game at random intervals, via electronic impulses transmitted by the "randomizer." In less than a second, a winning hand can change to a "bomb out."
There are four suits in the deck: sabers, staves, flasks, and coins. Numbered cards range from positive one to positive eleven, and there are four cards of "rank:" the Commander, the Mistress, the Master, and the Ace, with numerical values of positive twelve to fifteen.
Sixteen face cards complete the deck, two of each type, with assorted zero or negative values: the Idiot, the Queen of Air and Darkness, Endurance, Balance, Demise, Moderation, the Evil One, and the Star.
There are two different pots. The first, the hand pot, is awarded to the winner of each hand. In order to win the hand pot, a player must have the highest card positive or negative. In case of a tie, positive card value beat negative card value.
The other pot, the sabacc pot, is the "game" pot, and can only be won in two ways- with a pure sabacc- that is, card-chips totaling exactly twenty-three, or an idiot's array, consisting of one of the Idiot face cards, plus a two and a three- literally, 23- of any suit.
In the center of the table is an interference field. As the rounds of bluffing and betting proceed, sabacc players can "freeze" the value of a card by placing it into the interference field.

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So basically it's a more complicated version of our blackjack or 21.

I can post the pazaak rules too if anyone wants.

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April 20, 2008 4:25 am (Edited April 20, 2008 04:26 am) #

Thanks Miba :D

This is what I have managed to get from Wookiepedia :)

The game of sabacc used a deck of seventy six cards featuring sixty numbered cards divided into four suits, and two copies of eight special cards. Each player was passed four cards which made up their hand at the beginning of the game. The suit and value of the cards would shift to different values at random, unless they were placed in the neutral field in the center of the table.

The object of the game was to create a hand holding the value of twenty three, known as Pure Sabacc, or minus twenty three which would be trumped by a positive twenty three. Negative numbers could be created through the use of the special cards which all, with the exception of the Idiot card, represented a negative number.

At the end of their turn a player had to discard all but two of their cards. A new round began and new cards were dealt. A player won the game by either calling their hand when they had twenty three, or minus twenty three, or if their hand was below twenty three or above minus twenty three, but closer to either number than their opponent's. Anything over twenty three and under minus twenty three was a bust. A pure zero was also a bust.
Many private games and professional establishments played sabacc using "house rules". House rules used a selection of special modifications to the rules for example often stating that a player could place at most two cards in the neutral field where they were unaffected by shifting, or that an Idiot's Array, consisting of The Idiot, any two and any three would beat anything, even Pure Sabacc, and would win the sabacc pot. Another common house rule was that the bet amount was paid into the sabacc pot on bust, zero, or loss on call.

There were several styles of sabacc play, including Bespin Standard, Empress Teta Preferred, Cloud City Casino, and Corellian Gambit. Each system had slightly different rules. There was also a version where fives were wild. Other variations included Random Sabacc, in which the house rules were changed at random intervals, and Force Sabacc, which used an altered deck with Light side of the Force and Dark side of the Force themed suits.

Pure Sabacc

Pure Sabacc was the term used to describe a perfect hand of positive twenty three in the high stakes card game Sabacc. The phrase also saw use as a slang term, where it was used to refer to the perfection of a situation or object.

Idiot’s Array

An Idiot's array was a rare hand in some versions of sabacc consisting of the Idiot, a two of any suit, and a three of any suit. An idiot was worth nothing and the 2 and 3 rather than being added together would be read as being 23. An Idiot's array would thus trump even Pure Sabacc which was a positive score of 23.

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