Topic: Death skull (Mythosaur skull)

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December 15, 2006 6:33 pm (Edited December 20, 2013 04:04 pm) #

Everyone knows the skull when they see it as the skull on Fetts shoulder. The actual pics of it are a little different from what is floating around. Does anyone know when or why it was changed? For instance, the tusks appears to be attached to the skull on actual pic's of his shoulder but any image of it show them not to be.

December 15, 2006 6:49 pm #

The "Death skull" was never changed. On the coves of books and what not, the ink spread out lightly, and connected. It is also possible that the artist(s) did not have enough space. Covers of books, comics, etc. are not canon. By the way, it is a Mythosaur skull.

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December 15, 2006 8:57 pm #

A lot of different ideas of what the skull is. When I talked to Jeremy Bulloch about it, he called it a death skull so that is what I'm calling it. My understanding it is more of a symbol than a pic of the remains of an animal.

December 15, 2006 9:47 pm #

Hope this helps. :D

December 15, 2006 10:03 pm #

I have read about every explaination of what it is, I just like Jeremy's answer.

December 16, 2006 4:16 am #

ive always calleed it a bantha skull

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December 16, 2006 5:52 am #

Does anyone have a good movie pic of it? It just appears that with the real symbol the tusks are connected unlike every pic else where.

I wasn't trying to start a debate on the skulls name, just trying to figure out if there was a change with it.

December 16, 2006 8:46 am #

The official (movie) version can be found here in the form of a tattoo:  BFFC Manual.

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December 17, 2006 2:41 pm (Edited December 17, 2006 02:59 pm) #
BFFC Chrys wrote:

The official (movie) version can be found here in the form of a tattoo:  BFFC Manual.

That one is incorrect, here are pics of actual movie armour.
*HERE* which is more like *THIS*
Comparison

December 17, 2006 3:31 pm #

The "incorrect" one was simply supossed to be scraped up.

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December 17, 2006 6:59 pm #
Jaster Mereel wrote:

Hope this helps. :D

Too bad they don't have a picture of a mythosaur. Anyways at 1st I thought it kinda looked like the reek's skull, you know the one Jango killed? I thought Boba put it there in memory of the last creature Jango ever killed and to remeber Jango's death itself. But, I was wrong.

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December 18, 2006 11:48 am #

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Marvel_Star_Wars_69:_Death_in_the_City_of_Bone

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December 18, 2006 4:56 pm #

Are there tusks on Mythosaur skeleton?  In the comic?  Or are they covered by the spaceship?

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January 15, 2007 8:36 am #

there is a sweet mod for star wars galaxies to add the mythosaur to ur mando armour biceps. looks tight if u can see in ma avatar its ma galaxies char with it on.

January 15, 2007 12:22 pm #
Sev Fett wrote:

Are there tusks on Mythosaur skeleton?  In the comic?  Or are they covered by the spaceship?

Sadly enough, no, I don't think there are.  I doubt it was originally supposed to be the same animal on Boba's shoulder pad, so they don't line up exactly.

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January 28, 2007 3:24 pm #

While we're on the subject, what's the little feather in a circle emblem on his right breastplate supposed to mean?

January 28, 2007 3:53 pm #

As far as I know, that has not been revealed.

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January 28, 2007 9:49 pm #

Hmm, I wonder if we'll ever get a canon answer to that one...

January 28, 2007 10:20 pm #

I think i saw one really good theory I saw somewhere on this site...

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January 29, 2007 4:41 pm #

I heard once that it was called a wheat symbol, and it was used by the journeyman protectors.

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January 29, 2007 6:49 pm (Edited January 29, 2007 06:50 pm) #

Hiya, I'm new here, just wanted to join in the discussion. 

I heard that it was a Fett clan symbol.  Because Fett, or Vhett in Mando, meant farmer.  And the Fetts were originally farmers....

*shrugs*  Dunno, that's just another idea...

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January 30, 2007 11:46 am (Edited January 30, 2007 11:50 am) #

Cassus was not a farmer. Also, it could not have been the Fett clan symbol, as it was originally worn by Jaster. Jango wore it breifly while wearing Jaster's armor.

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January 30, 2007 6:48 pm #

You're probably right.  And no, Cassus wasn't a farmer.  But Fett, or Vhett, does mean "farmer" in Mando'a.  (See Bloodlines, Ch. 6 page 121, second paragraph past the dialoge.)  Yes I'm such a geek I looked it up!  LOL!

I sat in on a Fett panel at CIII and there were all kinds of ideas and theories tossed around about all things Fett.  It was really interesting to hear all the ideas and opinions.  The wheat symbol was discussed, but I have to admit by that point I was going on caffiene and about 3 hrs of sleep!   LOL! 

I figure it will eventually be fully explained in a future book.  :)

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January 30, 2007 7:22 pm #

Ya, I get that Vhett means farmer, but it is in fact Fett... not vhett. Unless somehow you can translate a name to mandoa... which if logical linguistics apply, you dont.

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January 30, 2007 7:47 pm #

In Bloodlines, p 121 it says (quote)

"Vhett was just the pure Mando'a form of "Fett"". 

Fett is giving Vhett as his last name at passport control. 

I took it to mean that Vhett was the Mando'a form of Fett's name, which means farmer.  :)

(I'm not trying to argue.  HATE arguing.  :) )

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January 30, 2007 8:49 pm #

Maybe it's a tribute to Captain Feathersword from the Wiggles :P Sorry I couldn't help myself.

I thought it might have been fish bones instead of plant. Just a thought.

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January 30, 2007 9:52 pm (Edited January 30, 2007 10:00 pm) #

Yeah, it does kinda look like fish bones too. 

You know, now that I look real close, on the bottom half it kinda looks like there is an "F". 

And on the top, it looks like a red drop of blood maybe?

Go look and see what you think. 

http://www.bobafettfanclub.com/manual/iconography/mandalorian.jpg

:)

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January 31, 2007 11:48 am #

I think that someone on this site said that the "F" may stand for fear, and thte drop maybe a tear. There is then the universal "anti-" sign going through it, saying that Fett has no emotions.

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February 18, 2007 7:39 pm #

I thought it was a symbol of honour bestowed upon a mandalorian for great deeds.  I could be wrong though.

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February 19, 2007 2:02 pm #

Now that's  the next Tatoo Bats wants,,just next to to Bat and the moon I have already
have,,I just love that skull,,will lok good ,but I'm still trying to find a print of it to show the Tatooist.
   Bats

August 10, 2007 11:39 am #

There is also another possible origin of the modern mando skull.  It's very possible that it is the skull of Master Jaing, a famous Mandalorian combat Master who was killed by the corrupt Mand'alor Ung Kusp.  Both Jaing and the Mando skull have a striking resemblance.


Wookiepedia on Master Jaing

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August 10, 2007 11:54 am #

does anyone have a pic of a Mythosaur before it was dead?

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August 10, 2007 12:05 pm (Edited August 10, 2007 12:10 pm) #

As far as I know there are no pictures of the mythosaur in any star wars pubs.  Thats why when the Jaing theory was brought to light it's been a pretty hot topic since.

Also found this little tidbit on the web:

Star Wars Insider #80 article:

"The traditional Mandalorian crest, frequently mistaken for a Bantha Skull, bears a striking resemblance to the skull of a male mythosaur. But in truth, the symbol was actually adopted in reverence to a legendary Mandalorian combat-training master. "

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August 11, 2007 4:12 pm (Edited December 20, 2013 04:02 pm) #

There's been several explainations of the Mandalorian Skull on Fett's shoulder bell, but never one for his chest emblem.  It's even been incorrectly identified on StarWarsShop.com in some of their product descriptions as a "bantha skull," but that's been pretty much ruled out entirely now.  When you see Master Jaing appear in the Star Wars Visionaries comic book, the first thing everyone noticed was that this guy's head is shaped exactly like the Mandalorian Skull (tusks and all).  This, of course, gave rise to the question if it was his skull or not.  If so, being a sworn enemy to the Mandalorians, even though he was one of their greatest training masters, why do the Mando's use it as a symbol that is universally recognized as being Mandalorian.  Mandalmotors uses the skull as part of their logo. 

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mandalmotors

Even the bounty hunter Durge has it painted across his chest armor.  This leads me more to think it's the skull of Jaing, since he was his master as well, and it would make sense that he would honor the memory of his fallen master.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Durge

There are different fan made variations you can find on the internet.  Some of them are very ellaborate and well made.  Kind of like the icon that Talon is using on the boards here.  Did you make that yourself?  Looks pretty cool.

Back to the chest emblem, though.  At first, it was thought to mean it was the Fett's family crest or something like that, but then it shows
up later, on the ship used by Jaster Mereel and Jango Fett.

http://www.bobafettfanclub.com/multimedia/galleries/displayimage.php?pid=1877

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jaster%27s_Legacy


And then, while watching the DVD of Episode III
something caught my eye, that only a Fett fan would
pick up on. When I re-wound the DVD, sure enough,
there it was. The Clone pilot who is helping Anakin
and Obi-Wan break through the lines to get to the ship
with the Chancellor on it, has this same crest on his
helmet. He's the pilot who says "They're all over me"
and then promptly gets blown to smithereens.

http://www.bobafettfanclub.com/multimedia/galleries/displayimage.php?pid=1878

http://www.bobafettfanclub.com/multimedia/galleries/displayimage.php?pid=1879

That got me really wondering where it had come from.
However, I was happy to see that they were actually
showing some Mandalorian influence on the Clone
Troopers, besides just the stuff that's written into
the expanded universe. 

So far, though, no official canon explanation to what the symbol means has been said.  I even emailed the Star Wars.com trivia site the question, but to no avail.  No answer came.  So, either they didn't know, or there is no answer at the current time.  However, I'm sure some author will make up a backstory for it, eventually.  Just a matter of time.  It'll be be interesting to see what kind of story for it they come up with, as it definitely has to be Mandalorian in origin, but not exclusive to just the Fett's, it would seem.

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August 11, 2007 4:25 pm #

At leas now i know what i have on my arm. If nyone cares or has that tatooed on them you sould share it. Go to Myspace/kendlestone to check out my pics/tat.

December 17, 2007 5:29 pm (Edited December 17, 2007 05:33 pm) #

im planning to get one on my arm one of these days but i cant find a large enough one or it changes color and wont print( and i have a good printer) and its driving me crazy!!!!!

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December 17, 2007 5:38 pm #

No cassus was a farmer... OF SOULS!!!!!!!!!!!!! sorry just playing kotor for the first time. wasn't it that mandalores of the old proved themselves by killing a Mythosaur?

December 17, 2007 6:25 pm #

Weren't mythosaurs humongous though?  Like a little bit smaller than a small city?

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December 17, 2007 6:28 pm #

i think so i relly don't know

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December 18, 2007 2:30 pm #

wait you just played kotor for the first time!!!!! O MY GOD(S)!!!!!

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December 21, 2007 4:35 am #

Sadriel, sorry it tool me so long to catch your question.

The Mercs "Jaing" Skull was created by a friend of mine out in California back in 2006.  It's a more modernized version of the Fett skull without losing much of it's menacing nature.  It also makes a great tatoo =D

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December 23, 2007 11:02 am #
Mandalorians for life wrote:

im planning to get one on my arm one of these days but i cant find a large enough one or it changes color and wont print( and i have a good printer) and its driving me crazy!!!!!

By the way the neo-crusaders rule!

You can always get a Neo-Crusaders symbol tattoo.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Neo_Crusader

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December 26, 2007 12:18 pm #

i might get both but idk...

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April 8, 2008 8:59 am #

OKKK- SO, what does sid skull represent?

April 8, 2008 9:01 am #

I did a stormtrooper. Am i still considered a good Boba fett fan?

April 8, 2008 9:32 am #

As long as in your heart Boba is always first.  :P

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April 10, 2008 1:26 pm #

dosent the symbol on his chestplate look like the planet saturn? it was the first thing that came to my mind but im probbly wrong

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July 20, 2008 12:44 am #

the chest symbol is simply mereel's clan symbol that jango then adopted and later boba fett
because jango trained the clones its what they printed on their helmet and what not i suppose from their training

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July 25, 2008 11:49 pm #

I always thought his chest symbol looks a lot like the symbol on the Oklahoma state flag, only backwards.

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July 26, 2008 12:31 am #

Freaky :P

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