Topic: Is Fett evil?

The feeling of power over them, I suppose.

it#s more than just pulling a trigger and bang. Everything that person is or was going to be is gone. Not only that, but the people who care about them and for them are having there lives torn apart. things like that never really heal. And then thats more lifes damaged or destroyed

But you lose that power once they are dead.

I couldn't care less about their family or friends.  Like I said to someone else before, I have no sympathy or conscience for dead people, becuase I have steeled myself against such feelings.  I know there's alot of stuff about  people losing there nerves because of killing somone in books or movies.  Hate to break it to ya, but not everyone is like that.

So how about if the person you're trying to kill fights back and kills you? Then you'd have died cause you were trying to kill them...

Lets put it this way. How would you feel if you lost someone you cared about, like a parent, a sibling, a grandparter, a friend or a GF?

...and I am sure you wouldn't really care how your family and friends felt after that...

Well, what am I gonna do about it?  I'll be dead, remember?  Besides, If there's a war between me and them, they would shoot first given the chance, just as I would.  I'm not talking about murder here, people.

I'd want revenge, of course.  If you read the post I made some where else, I said i hade no empathy for strangers.

No matter what you call it, someone is dead. It's not like an xbox game where u just reload it and your alive agian.

Though, in a war it is impossible to prevent people from dying. Unless you're the president or something...

But I'll just stick to video game wars myself.

In a war it's inevitable, but my qualm is how easy some( a v.small minority) ppl on this board seem to be so at ease with the thought of themselves killing ppl, especialy when they seem to take some form of pleasure in it.

People are different.  Get used to it.

Oh i know, but deep down you will never get any real pleasure from killing.

What can i say, i'm a lover not a fighting, and i'd rather get my pleasure from been with a beautiful woman than hurting someone any day.

Hey, don't get me wrong, I love women too. (No, not like that.  I may be many things, but I'm not a pervert.)   And I dont get a sadistic pleasure from killing, just a smug satisfaction that I'm better than they are.  I'm pretty sure they have a name for that.

Yajuta, I think we're going to get along just fine.

My good people, you call yourselves Mandalorians, yet you don't understand war. In war there is no empathy, no consideration for anyone's families or friends or loved ones. There is no talking, no negotiating on the battlefield. There's only you and your enemy and the better man walks away. The weak fall to the strong. It's the way of life. You hippies can cringe at this, but that's how it is and you can't deny it. Yeah, it'd be great if we could all live in peace. But we can't. There will always be war and there will always be those that must fight them.

My boyfriend's older brother is serving a second time in Iraq as we speak. Do you think he feels any remorse? No. And do you know why? Because at the end of the day it was them or him. They weren't about to lay down their arms and make friends, so why should he show them mercy? An army that would rather die than kill will not move the enemy to peace, it will make it easier for them to conquer.

Peace is certainly better than war. But when there is inevitably war, it's better to kill than be killed. You can accept this... or not.

Good point, Kudar.  I don't have any good argument for that except to say that I think it was badly worded on the part of the author.  I don't think Boba gets pleasure from "killing anyone."  For example, remember how upset Little Boba was in Tales #18 when he helped Jango take out those rebels.  I don't think he'd show the same amount of sympathy in his adult life, but still, it would be surprising if every trace of it had been burned out of him.  I think the personality you have as a child stays with you, at least in some aspects.

Is Fett evil? NO WAY in our point of veiw he is our hero. In any other point of veiw he would be.

Hell. Yes.

I'm too lazy to type up all my opinions and feelings about war and killing. So, I'm assuming, is The Yautja. So, we summarize: We like to kill. We like war, because it makes killing legal. We like killing legally, because we can kill without getting thrown into prison. Repeat.

Now Flash, maybe you're right, maybe I am, or we are, sick; you wouldn't be the first one to accuse me of it. Maybe not all soldiers love to kill, to be better, not just good enough. But I do, Yautja does, and we are going to have one hell of a time doing what we love. Maybe we'll die doing it, but with any luck we'll bag our limit in kills first. You kill, you die; it's war mate.

For start, i dont call my self a mandalorian. I'm merely a life long fan of Boba. And it is better to be kill
than to killed, but it is better not to kill at all.

I even agree with the war in iraqi, because it was the right thing to do. Unless of course the war was all about oil, then it is wrong

Alright mate, I've had this talk with Arc Fett and Bobadude before. You need work on your grammar, and spelling, and communication in general. Because if you want to get your point across in an argument, like this one, you need to make sure we understand what you're saying. Because right now, I can't.

"it is better to be kill
than to killed, but it is better not to kill at all."

One, I could barely understand what you were saying. Two, if I did get that right, then I find that untrue in every way. Some people deserve to die, and even if they're not actively trying to kill you, I find it perfectly acceptable to put a bullet between their eyes.

Sorry for any inconvenance, been dsyelix and all tho, i do tend to get words and letters mixed up.

No one deserves to die, not even child molesters, murderers or war criminals. Why? Because then you are just taking an eye for an eye. Now i belive in punishment for people's crimes, and harsh punishments, such as life in prison.

Another point is, for crimnals, like child molesters, murderers or war criminals etc, then killing them is letting them have an easy way out. It would be a better punishment for them to spend the rest of their lives in a tiny cell and then after decades of that, then dying.

So it's all a battle of egos then?

Exactly, remember KOTOR? I don't want to spoil anyone who hasn't played it but: They didn't kill this person who had killed a lot of others, and that person went on to save the galaxy from an even worse fate. And this because this person wasn't killed for their crimes.

My name is not Bobadude it is Boba Dude, you forgot the space.
(Please don't get mad at me.....again)

Yup, us cold-hearted types gotta stick together.

THE FLASH, sure, putting them in a cell is worse for them, but what happens if they escape?  We're not supposed to do what is worse for them, but what is best for all thems innocent types.  I thought you were all humanitarian and crap, so wouldn't you want them to have the easy way out?  It's not an eye for an eye, it's justice.

This is getting too much out of hand... Those who speak of war, I suggest you start a new topic to carry on your conversation, instead of destroying this one.

Well you see Miba, that might be relevant if we could kind of brainwash people and make them forget who they were and what they did. Your weak link is, we can't. And in lieu of this...we kill them. Painfully. Violently. Beautifully. And I love it.

Holy hell, I should be a poet.

And there is no greater good than Justice.

Justice isnt killing them tho. These people deserve to be punished for what they have done, and not a quick and easy punishment, like killing them, but rather a long one. Like life in jail.

How do you Beautifully kill someone?

You wanna find out? I could come up with a few nice examples.

For instance, I could go for the 'sweet spot'. Fourth Lumbard down, left of the spine, abdominal Aorta.

Or, a head shot, any headshot, whether at 3 meters of 3 hundred.

Or, one of my personal favorites: You slit their throat, deep, down into the windpipe. Then, you pull the tongue through the slit. Instant necktie.

Or, you could do it ritually. You get them on their knees (best done with two shooters), place the guns at the back of the head so they criss-cross in the braincase and exit through the eyes. Then you put coins in the now-empty sockets.

Every kill is beautiful in its own way.

Please people, start a new topic for killing and all that stuff so this topic can regain it's original purpose.

Very well sai, I was just educating Mr. FLASH, who seems to lack knowledge in the realm of violence.

hope this is ok KudarMubat 15

http://bobafett.com/boards/viewtopic.php?pid=3592#p3592

and as for violence, i have heard of all them, but i fail to see how they are beuatiful

Thank you. :)

your welcome, now lets get back to Boba

Agreed, I would like to get back to Boba too. :) I still say he's not evil, just inbetween good and evil.

I say he's not evil, just trying to be good in all the wrong ways.  He needs an intervention.  ;)

I think that from a Biblical standpoint, he is evil. I think from a uniformitarian standpoint, that evil is nonexistant and therefore he is not evil. I think from a normal rebellion/empire standpoint, that he is neutral. (Even though he helped the Empire, he would have helped the Rebellion had they offered.)

Actually, speaking of biblicalness, there is a section in one of the Timothys (2 I think) where it says pretty much the exact same thing as the "there is no greater good than justice, and only if we follow justice and the law was made for those who are bad" I forget how it goes, the Jaster thing in the beginning of TOTBH. I'm not sure what difference that makes to this thread, just that the Justice quote-morality-thing is in the bible, only worded differently with some parts left out.

Justice is good, and Fett does deal it out, but he is also criminalistic. He helps all sorts of criminals from the underworld, Jabba the Hutt being one of them.

One major problem is that in the original trilogy time period, a majority of the criminals were the good guys. The Jedi, the Rebellion, the ones fighting against evil. (Not all criminals were though, such as Jabba the Hutt.) The people who were trying to bring justice (such as the stormtroopers and such) were the bad guys in Star Wars. Was the Emporer not evil? He was no criminal. He was bringing his "justice" throughout the galaxy by wiping out the remainder of the Jedi knights. Were the Jedi evil? They were criminals to the Empire. So in a twisted society where some justice is evil and some criminals are good, what is good and what is evil?

To add to what Miba said, laws are made for the unjust, but give unto Caesar what is Caesar's.  So Biblically speaking, you're supposed to obey the laws unless they cause you to sin.  In this regard, Boba's motto definitely isn't Biblical.  However, I don't think Boba would be Biblically evil.  I think he's full of evil, as are all people, but he's not evil himself.  He's just extremely misguided.  To be truly evil, he would have to get a sadistic pleasure out of killing people, and he would be a bounty hunter solely for that reason.  Since he's a bounty hunter for the purposes of dealing out justice (good intentions, bad methods) and living an honorable life, I don't think he can be considered evil no matter how tremendous a sinner he may be.

So . . . Why do you like him?

What does that have to do with anything? Why do people like Darth Maul? Or General Grievous? Or Darth Vader? Or Sith in general?

I think we are really still thinking of different kinds of evil. But it is oo hard for me to go on...

Because most of those people are, well, like me and SciFi.  But you made it clear that you're opposed to such beliefs.  And if you think Fett is evil . . . well I'm just confused.

i think people are drawn to a good villian tho.

For example one of my favorite media characters is Eric Cartman and that is one evil little b*****d.

I also said myself, "I am sticking to the video game wars myself." :) (If you are reffering to our war killing discussion)

Thanks, I didn't think of that. :) And I mostly agree with the rest of your post too.

Exactly right.  Personally, I primarily go for the moody loners with traumatic pasts, but villains are my second favorite characters.  Anakin was totally cool in Ep. III, even though he was utterly horrifying.

I am also a fan of villians, but I also like anti-heros (that pretty much goes without saying on this board), and dopplegangers aswell, but NOT Jodo Kast.