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February 25, 2006 2:21 pm #

Well, most of the bounties occur in the Outer Rim, which is not official part of the Republic/Empire. So out there its more where the scum of the galaxy congregate, where most Galatic Laws are either not enforced, or do not apply.

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February 25, 2006 3:10 pm #
Lt. Gay Ellis wrote:

I think it's pointless to argue whether or not someone is evil when it's pretty clear that in the place they're living in, assasination and bounty hunting of this sort are legal.

Remember, in our world (at least in most countries on this planet), bounty hunting is only legal when the target is a fugitive who's skipped bail, and I think the bail bondsman may even need to go to court to get approval.  The whole "bring in this guy I don't like" thing if STRICTLY illegal here.

So I guess I don't think he's evil.  In a place where there's little or no accountability or rule of law, how can he be?

Being evil has nothing to do with what is legal and what is not. What you are saying means the Emporer wasn't evil. He wasn't doing anything against the law, but he was very evil.

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February 26, 2006 3:54 pm #

alright hes neutral but still think about it killing for money

What if he doesn't survive?He's worth alot to me
February 26, 2006 5:44 pm #

Maybe,Jaster said it,but I clearly remember it in one of The Mandalorian Armor,SlaveOne,and Hard Merchandice bookseries thing when Boba has a flash back on his trial on Concord Dawn.And he went to Concord Dawn on orders given by Jango.
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February 27, 2006 4:33 am (Edited February 27, 2006 04:34 am) #
Atinvod wrote:

Maybe,Jaster said it,but I clearly remember it in one of The Mandalorian Armor,SlaveOne,and Hard Merchandice bookseries thing when Boba has a flash back on his trial on Concord Dawn.And he went to Concord Dawn on orders given by Jango.
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Nope, Jango is in none of those books. Nor does Boba have a flashback to being at Concord Dawn in them. He does however have a flashback to Concord Dawn in Tales of the Bounty Hunters, but I haven't read that book yet. Still, Jango couldn't be in it, because it was written far, far, before Jango was even invented.

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February 27, 2006 7:51 am #
Miba wrote:

Oh, I know all that backstory, I read Open Seasons over about three or four times. But I thought I'd read somewhere OL what I said up there.

Anyway, as for the armor, Boba does get ahold of all the Mandalorian armor he finds, and he must have gotten ahold of Jasters cause the New Essential Guide to Characters says, "He possessed Jango's reflexes, Jango's ship, Slave I, and a set of Mandalorian armor that had once belonged to Jaster Mereel, his father's mentor." But earlier on, kid-Boba wore Jango's armor and then after a while he repainted it. We have yet to find out how he gets Jaster's armor.

I think that Jango had his own set of armor. Then when Jango was killed boba took it off of Jango and used it. At the time he would have been to small to use the armor at all, so he used the helmet. I read the Boba Fett series of books that what I think where boba got the armor, and he did repaint Jango's armor.

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February 27, 2006 10:24 am #
Boba Dude wrote:
Miba wrote:

Oh, I know all that backstory, I read Open Seasons over about three or four times. But I thought I'd read somewhere OL what I said up there.

Anyway, as for the armor, Boba does get ahold of all the Mandalorian armor he finds, and he must have gotten ahold of Jasters cause the New Essential Guide to Characters says, "He possessed Jango's reflexes, Jango's ship, Slave I, and a set of Mandalorian armor that had once belonged to Jaster Mereel, his father's mentor." But earlier on, kid-Boba wore Jango's armor and then after a while he repainted it. We have yet to find out how he gets Jaster's armor.

I think that Jango had his own set of armor. Then when Jango was killed boba took it off of Jango and used it. At the time he would have been to small to use the armor at all, so he used the helmet. I read the Boba Fett series of books that what I think where boba got the armor, and he did repaint Jango's armor.

Yeah. Perhaps we will find out how he aquired Jaster's in that new TV series...

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February 27, 2006 1:03 pm #

I hope it's good!

"He's no good to me dead."- Boba Fett
March 3, 2006 3:30 pm #

Boba with the help of Anakin, repainted the armor green

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March 4, 2006 10:18 am #

In the one-hundred percent Fett issue of Star Wars: Tales he has Jango's unpainted armor.

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March 4, 2006 11:00 am #

i forgot about that. If u look at Boba's profile on wookiepedia tho it does say that he repaints the armor. Lets just asume that Jango had more than one set of armor

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March 4, 2006 11:30 am #
THE FLASH wrote:

i forgot about that. If u look at Boba's profile on wookiepedia tho it does say that he repaints the armor. Lets just asume that Jango had more than one set of armor

It is also possible that the pait simply wore away, as he does have numerous sets of armor.

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March 6, 2006 3:40 pm #

Both of the Fett's are just the ideal imbodyment of the Capitalist economic system.  He is only trying to make a living doing what he does best, and overall it is "for the good of the Galaxy," someone has to the dirty work right?  And as far as his personality changes from "get im dad" to ruthless bounty hunter, I think it all has to do with the scene where he's on his knees holding his father's helmet, after Mace Windu decapitated him.  That's the moment that the galaxy's greatest and most feared bounty hunter is born.  I mean he had no mother and all of Jango's relatives were murdered, he was left alone, and trained in the mandalorian ways, he took up his fathers armor and did what he was spawned for: continuing Jango's Legacy.

March 11, 2006 10:52 am #

He isn't good or evil, he's just making money.

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March 11, 2006 1:06 pm #

Not just for money sai, he deals justice. One who kills for money is by definition also evil.

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March 11, 2006 6:08 pm #

What people forget is that the morals and vertues are slighty different in the star wars universe than in the real world. What is moraly ambigous in the star wars universe could be a major issue in the real world. For example:Cloning

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March 12, 2006 5:52 am #

I don't think that Boba is good or evil. Most Star Wars fans seem to see in two colors: black and white. We forget the shades of gray in between. Boba Fett is what he is. He's one of those questions without an answer. Fett has dealt justice for some sentients of questionable alignments, but it was still justice. He's an impartial force, and gives his allegiance to only one cause. This cause isn't dark or light, it's justice, and both these extremes need it. Thus he will serve both for the right amount of money.

"There is no greater good than justice," -Boba Fett
March 12, 2006 7:24 am (Edited March 12, 2006 07:24 am) #

I liked how "Bounty Hunter" painted Jango to be an honorable individual (despite 1-2 ruthless kills). I would be inclined to think that Boba would take after Jango in many ways. I agree with several people that Boba Fett is not good or evil. There were only a few exceptional people who really saw the Empire as something that needed to be stopped. Some like aliens had good motivations, thus, you saw a lot of Wookiees or Mon Calamari go Rebel.

However, one can't take Fett's lack of empathy or affinity for the Rebel Alliance to be instant evil. He was simply a human being who saw the Empire as authority. The first thing the Empire did was hunt down the Jedi ruthlessly. The 2nd most powerful and prominent Jedi Master in the galaxy decapitated his father. So he must have seen the Empire as a good thing.

March 12, 2006 5:15 pm #
Sarin Kerivor wrote:

Most Star Wars fans seem to see in two colors: black and white. We forget the shades of gray in between.

I think it's not just SW fans, it's the most the population of Earth. ;)

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March 14, 2006 1:56 pm #

I see Boba Fett as fitting the description of an anti-hero.  At first glance he appears to be a villian, and you will usually find him associated with evil.  An in-depth look, however, reveals there is alot more to Fett. 
(I feel like I'm doing an essay)  He does not 'kill' for money, he delivers bounties for money, and he is capable of mercy.
  He does kill alot though, for self defence and justice reasons, (Which is what makes him so appealing to me) but I do not think he is malicious or evil.

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March 14, 2006 2:10 pm #

I think evil entails some degree of malice, like The Yajuta said. And Boba Fett would never kill without a perfectly good reason, unlike, say, Bossk, whom we have seen kill simply because he can.

By the way, I hear there's a Bossk Lover's Club out there. I say we declare war... *grumble*

"There is no greater good than justice," -Boba Fett
March 14, 2006 2:25 pm #
Sarin Kerivor wrote:

I think evil entails some degree of malice, like The Yajuta said. And Boba Fett would never kill without a perfectly good reason, unlike, say, Bossk, whom we have seen kill simply because he can.

By the way, I hear there's a Bossk Lover's Club out there. I say we declare war... *grumble*

I agree, and will supply thr weapons!

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March 15, 2006 5:14 am (Edited March 15, 2006 05:15 am) #

I think if someone wanted someone else dead, and there was a good price for it, Boba would kill him. (Him being the person under bounty.) This, is what makes him evil. He will kill people, or torture people for money. He himself may not do the torturing, but that is usually what happens when he captures someone alive and he knows it. That is greed, murder, and torture. That is pretty bad.

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March 15, 2006 3:50 pm #
draco fett wrote:
Sarin Kerivor wrote:

I think evil entails some degree of malice, like The Yajuta said. And Boba Fett would never kill without a perfectly good reason, unlike, say, Bossk, whom we have seen kill simply because he can.

By the way, I hear there's a Bossk Lover's Club out there. I say we declare war... *grumble*

I agree, and will supply thr weapons!

You will supply the weapons? And how much do you know about them, exactly? Do you know the difference between a good assault rifle and an M16? The pros and cons of a Desert Eagle opposed to a Glock 17? Do you know the difference between a carbine and a submachine gun? Were there to be a war, and were there to be weapons in that war, The Yautja and I would be the most qualified to oversee them.

As for war? I'm in. Raise up the banner, bend back your bows.

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March 15, 2006 5:26 pm (Edited March 15, 2006 05:35 pm) #
SciFifreak90 wrote:
draco fett wrote:
Sarin Kerivor wrote:

I think evil entails some degree of malice, like The Yajuta said. And Boba Fett would never kill without a perfectly good reason, unlike, say, Bossk, whom we have seen kill simply because he can.

By the way, I hear there's a Bossk Lover's Club out there. I say we declare war... *grumble*

I agree, and will supply thr weapons!

You will supply the weapons? And how much do you know about them, exactly? Do you know the difference between a good assault rifle and an M16? The pros and cons of a Desert Eagle opposed to a Glock 17? Do you know the difference between a carbine and a submachine gun? Were there to be a war, and were there to be weapons in that war, The Yautja and I would be the most qualified to oversee them.

Rofl, that post was so braggy that it was hilarious. :lol:

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March 15, 2006 5:27 pm (Edited March 15, 2006 05:32 pm) #
SciFifreak90 wrote:

You will supply the weapons? And how much do you know about them, exactly? Do you know the difference between a good assault rifle and an M16? The pros and cons of a Desert Eagle opposed to a Glock 17? Do you know the difference between a carbine and a submachine gun? Were there to be a war, and were there to be weapons in that war, The Yautja and I would be the most qualified to oversee them.

As for war? I'm in. Raise up the banner, bend back your bows.

I admit, I have no idea what a Desert Eagle, or a Glock 17 is, but I have the melee weapons. For example, I have five swords (one of which has a hidden dagger),about
sixty knives, a flail, a nagianta, and a bull-whip. I also own a .22, a Winchester 243 super-short magnum, and a blow-gun. Also, I know how to make a very simple bomb. And of course, my demon-spawn rabbit.

By the way, if there were to be a war, someone who aims persanel threats and insults would be kicked out, or, at the very least, would not be alowed to get a higher rank. The latter of that statment aslo goes for this bored.

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March 16, 2006 12:34 pm (Edited March 16, 2006 12:37 pm) #

I hate to break it to ya Robin Hood, but wars are fought with guns now. No flails, no swords, occasionally knives, but for the most part using beautiful and powerful projectile weapons. You know what that means? It means you get smoked Sir Draco, because a sword doesn't come out on top against a 7.62.

.22 caliber....isn't that an impressive statement. Plug me with a few, and when I raise my eyebrow and look for the entry wounds, you'll see that .22's have as much a place in war as Michael Jackson's nose has a place on his face.

Don't get into weapons arguments with me sai, it's been tried before.

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March 16, 2006 12:36 pm #
draco fett wrote:

I admit, I have no idea what a Desert Eagle, or a Glock 17 is, but I have the melee weapons. For example, I have five swords (one of which has a hidden dagger),about
sixty knives, a flail, a nagianta, and a bull-whip. I also own a .22, a Winchester 243 super-short magnum, and a blow-gun. Also, I know how to make a very simple bomb. And of course, my demon-spawn rabbit.

By the way, if there were to be a war, someone who aims persanel threats and insults would be kicked out, or, at the very least, would not be alowed to get a higher rank. The latter of that statment aslo goes for this bored.

Thanks, but no thanks.  Despite having a wide variety of blades myself, I would rather choose to be supplied with projectile weapons (Bushmaster M-17s, H&K USP .40 cal, and a Berreta 9000 9 mil) during any type of fight. 
  Of course, I'd still want a KA-BAR knife, but I have one of those too.

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March 16, 2006 2:49 pm #

Both of you realize that there is not going to be a war, right?

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March 16, 2006 3:24 pm #

What can we say? We're war junkies.

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March 16, 2006 4:03 pm #

How did a subject about Boba's morality end up been a debate about war. Cus yeah wars are soo cool, Oh wait there not, since people die you know?

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March 16, 2006 4:38 pm #
SciFifreak90 wrote:

What can we say? We're war junkies.

Okay, so we are not planning on killing each other now? Anyway, I find war pretty interesting aswell, although, I prefer the tactics, mercenaries, and the conquring.

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March 16, 2006 4:53 pm #

I just like to hurt people. That simple.

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March 16, 2006 4:54 pm #

I just wanted to say that I prefer blades to bullets....

And I agree, we should go back on topic.

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March 16, 2006 5:35 pm #
SciFifreak90 wrote:

I just like to hurt people. That simple.

WHY

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March 16, 2006 5:39 pm #

I am agreeing with Flash. There is nothing fun in hurting people.

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March 16, 2006 5:54 pm #

Exaclty, it isnt big and it isn't impressive.

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March 16, 2006 6:01 pm #

The ONLY time that is okay is, well: "An eye for an ey. and atooth for a tooth."

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March 16, 2006 6:28 pm (Edited March 16, 2006 06:29 pm) #
draco fett wrote:

The ONLY time that is okay is, well: "An eye for an ey. and atooth for a tooth."

Sometimes, but not always. If someone killed your friend, should you kill his? No. If you did, you would both go to jail. Retaliation is not always the answer.

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March 16, 2006 6:49 pm #

Code of Hammurabi-
An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.
Matthew 5: 39-
"If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also."
Violence never solves anything.
Except in war.  :)

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March 16, 2006 6:57 pm (Edited March 16, 2006 07:03 pm) #

Precisely. I actually typed up something that I find pretty interesting back in December. I didn't post it on this site though, but on another... Since it is sort of on our off topic topic, I guess I will post it here.


If someone flames you, and you retaliate, then how wrong were they to flame you? When you retaliate, you are just putting yourself on their level. If you think they are stupid for flaming you, then why flame them? Wouldn't that just make you just as stupid? A retaliation is just as bad as the flame that provoked it. If you retaliate, a flamer has succeeded in his mission. He has done more damage to you than his words could have ever done. As Boba Fett says in the Bounty Hunter Wars Trilogy, "The one that angers you owns you." If you retaliate, you would be warned just as he would be warned. But if you do not, the flamer will be warned but you will not.


Just replace the word "flame" with attack, and "warned" to "punished". Yes, I know it still doesn't translate to "attacking" perfectly, but you get the idea.

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March 17, 2006 6:34 am (Edited March 17, 2006 06:37 am) #
THE FLASH wrote:

Oh wait there not, since people die you know?

That, buddy, is the whole point of war.  Me and Scifi agree on pretty much everything regarding battle, so I guess the reason I'm joining the USMC is to kill me some enemy.  (And to defend my country at the same time, of course.)  I guess I just want the glory of battle.  You could say I'm kind of an adrenaline junkie, and what better way to get the old adrenaline pumpimg than to get shot at, shoot back, and hopefully kill that guy stupid enough to try and take a crack at you in the first place.  There's just something powerful feeling about being able to take a life.  (legally of course, like in war.  I'm not some sort of serial killer or something.  Theres nothing honorable about murdering somone.)

But anyways, lets get back to topic.

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March 17, 2006 7:44 am #

Unless that person deserved to be murdered. Then the question isn't about honor, but whether or not his life is worth yours in prison.

Exactly, I'm joining to military to bag me some kills. Defending my country's just the dependent variable. How well I protect my country is directly proportional to the amount of bad guys I waste.

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March 17, 2006 8:59 am #

Boba (as far as he knows) only kills people who are evil and deserve it (or people who want to die).  And when he is presented with clear evidence that his bounty is innocent or deserving of life, he lets them go.  And he doesn't take pleasure from killing, just from hunting.

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March 17, 2006 11:50 am #
SciFifreak90 wrote:

Unless that person deserved to be murdered. Then the question isn't about honor, but whether or not his life is worth yours in prison.

Exactly, I'm joining to military to bag me some kills. Defending my country's just the dependent variable. How well I protect my country is directly proportional to the amount of bad guys I waste.

I have nothing against ppl joining the milatary, esp if it is to serve their country.In fact i cnt sing their praises high enough. And if someone shot at me i would shoot back, but to join to milatry just to kill ppl then that is sick/

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March 17, 2006 12:03 pm #
BFFC Chrys wrote:

Boba (as far as he knows) only kills people who are evil and deserve it (or people who want to die).  And when he is presented with clear evidence that his bounty is innocent or deserving of life, he lets them go.  And he doesn't take pleasure from killing, just from hunting.

Killing is not all that would make him bad. He captured Han Solo knowing the Empire would torture him. And what he takes pleasure in really doesn't affect whether he does it or not.

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March 17, 2006 1:43 pm #

Han Solo was a spice runner, a criminal. 'Nuff said.

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March 17, 2006 2:00 pm (Edited March 17, 2006 02:35 pm) #
Sarin Kerivor wrote:

Han Solo was a spice runner, a criminal. 'Nuff said.

Yes, but that was not why the Empire wanted him, nor was it why Jabba wanted him. Nor was it why Jabba wanted him. Jabba didn't want to give Solo justice. He wanted to punish him for failing as a smuggler. Jabba was a crime lord, and Boba was helping him. So he captures a criminal, while he is helping another criminal who gave the orders to the other criminal to commit the crime. So really, if Boba was capturing Han because he thought Han was a bad dude, he wouldn't then go give him to Jabba the Hutt, the biggest criminal in the galaxy. At least if he was trying to be a holy warrior.

But that is just if you are speaking in criminal terms. Being a criminal does not make you evil. The Jedi were criminals, were they evil? Obi-Wan was a criminal to the Empire. Was he evil? Boba's motives were what determined whether he was evil or not. He just wanted Solo because he had a large price on his head and Boba could get twice the pay for him. Not because Boba wanted to be a crime fighting warlord. Greed was his ally, and he didn't care what the criminal did. His job was just to catch him, whether he was a criminal or not. (Or at least according to the Bounty Hunter Wars. I should find that quote...)


EDIT:
I didn't find the exact quote I was looking for, but I did find this on page 62 of the Mandalorian Armor:
"Tracking someone down, pursuing him the width of the galaxy, capturing, transporting, killing anyone who had to be killed in order to get the job done---those things were all cold pleasures, to be savored as tests and confirmations of his own skills."

I wish I could find the other one... It made the point much more clear. But I don't want to re-read the entire trilogy to find it.

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March 17, 2006 4:56 pm #
THE FLASH wrote:

I have nothing against ppl joining the milatary, esp if it is to serve their country.In fact i cnt sing their praises high enough. And if someone shot at me i would shoot back, but to join to milatry just to kill ppl then that is sick/

Far better if someone joins the military to raise their body count then if they murder innocents.

SciFifreak90 wrote:

Unless that person deserved to be murdered. Then the question isn't about honor, but whether or not his life is worth yours in prison.

I dunno, I wouldn't want to spend a life sentence just for serving justice. (revenge for a slain family member or friend is a different story)  If I was there when someone committed a crime, I would do all in my power to stop him/her (i.e, shoot them) and I'd be happy to do it.  Searching for someone, no.  I'm not the Punisher, unfortunately.  And I'm too lazy.

SciFifreak90 wrote:

Defending my country's just the dependent variable. How well I protect my country is directly proportional to the amount of bad guys I waste.

Two birds with one stone, eh?

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March 17, 2006 5:26 pm #
The Yautja wrote:
THE FLASH wrote:

I have nothing against ppl joining the milatary, esp if it is to serve their country.In fact i cnt sing their praises high enough. And if someone shot at me i would shoot back, but to join to milatry just to kill ppl then that is sick/

Far better if someone joins the military to raise their body count then if they murder innocents.

SciFifreak90 wrote:

Unless that person deserved to be murdered. Then the question isn't about honor, but whether or not his life is worth yours in prison.

I dunno, I wouldn't want to spend a life sentence just for serving justice. (revenge for a slain family member or friend is a different story)  If I was there when someone committed a crime, I would do all in my power to stop him/her (i.e, shoot them) and I'd be happy to do it.  Searching for someone, no.  I'm not the Punisher, unfortunately.  And I'm too lazy.

SciFifreak90 wrote:

Defending my country's just the dependent variable. How well I protect my country is directly proportional to the amount of bad guys I waste.

Two birds with one stone, eh?

But why in the first place do you want to kill ppl

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