Topic: Ghost Rider

For once I'm actually thrilled about going to watch a comic book movie. I only have one little short story from the series but I just can't wait for it.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oGjsPYLb9xU

I'm excited for this one too. I've never had the chance to read any of the comics, but I'll finally be able to see it for the first time.

it kinda looks like they made it into a comedy, at least thats how they are promoting it,
oh by the way smokin aces is only ok...

It's about freakin' time Ghost Rider got a movie. It looks really cool. If you go see Rocky Balboa there's a preview and Ghost Rider's voice sounds awesome. Now if Deadpool could just get a movie.

Iron Man's getting a movie too and he's the best(in my opinion) I can't wait till 2008 GO IRON MAN!

You read that on Wikipedia, didn't you? It is very possibly true, but do not believe Wikipedia.

I believe Iron Man is actually coming out and about Ghost Rider when I heard Nick Cage was going to be Ghost Rider I kind of laughed because I never imagined Nicolas Cage as the superhero type.

That's how I feel. But it's not a bad placement if the trailers are anything to go off on.

February 16. And to top it all off that's when the Naruto Fillers ends, well about the same time.

I'm totally stoked for the release of this movie. I keep seeing clips of it when we watch UFC. I think Cage is a good choice. He does that 'eternally tormented' thing really well.

I finally saw more than the last two seconds of the commercial, and it looks to be quite good. Zarathose, however, does not look al hadoes in the comics. For those who do not know what I am talking about, the grayish demonic creature seen for about a second in the commercial. Unless that was supposed to be Mephistopeles, in which case it looks absolutely nothing like he does in the comics or Faust.

no actually I did not I found it on IMDb which is a site for info on any movie and I've found that they are pretty accurate. 

also, if you look real closrely in the Marvel movies you'll find Stan Lee who helps out with the Marvel comics and also created some of the characters like in X3 he's the old man with the sprinkler in the beginning when Magneto lifts up all of the cars and in the Spider-Man movies Spidey is constantly saving him from a falling clump of bricks, and in Daredevil he's the old man reading the newspaper and Daredevil blocks him from walking in front of a bus. I'm still looking for him in the other X-men movies and Fantastic 4

The main enemy is supposed to be Blackheart I think. Who doesn't get his comic costume until the end or so I've supposedly heard.

isn't Blackheart the big black demon/wendigo looking thing? I think you have to fight him in Marvel:Ultimate Alliance.

It kinda looks like Spawn, kinda.

Yea, he was in Marvel Ultimate Alliance.

I've heard that the Internet Movie Database can be quite inacurate.

Stan Lee did not just help with the comics, he was one of the creators of Marvel comics, and I know of his plethora of cameos. In one of the Spiderman movies (I cannot remember which one), he saves a woman from ruble; the protaganist does not save him. In the Hulk movie, he is seen arguing with the actor who played the Hulk in the live action television series. I do not think that he was in the third X-men movie. In the Fantastic Four movie (the recent remake, not the original), he plays the mail man. The mail man (whose name I forget) was in the comics, and was modled after Stan Lee.

Blackheart, that makes more scence then.

Yeah, I know who Stan is he also created the Original Spider-Man. And he is in X3 he's at the very beginning when professor X and Magneto go and see Jean Grey to invite her to the shool then Magneto lifts up all the cars and the old man wityh the sprinkler and the water goes up. I have not seen Hulk yet though, and Fantastic 4 I never could tell who he was.

Blackheart that's him, he's one of the bosses you have to fight in Marvel: Ultimate Alliance.

Actually IMDB is usually very accurate. The only time it isn't would be if there is a cancelation... which in essence isn't really their fault. And I have seen Iron Man on more than one site, plus he had the cartoon movie just released so i wouldnt doubt it. Oh and in Daredevil Stan Lee is the man with the newspaper that Daredevil stops from being hit by a car, after his playground battle with Electra.

no it was when he was still a kid when he stops him cuz after the playground battle it went right to the court scene and besides I already said that

Duh (to myself, not to you). I remember seeing Stan Lee in the commercial, and in the movie, and I read your comment. I think that I was thinkking of "X2," rather than the third movie in the series.

yeah, I haven't seen him in any of the other X-Men movies. but I do plan on looking for him in Ghost Rider and Iron Man

i always liked the old ghost rider comics when they came out.all the new marvel movies are good but they seem to take forever before the fighting starts.

I'm going to go see it this Friday!!!!

Hey Fantastic Four 2: Rise of the Silver Surfer looks pretty cool too.  Although wasn't he like the hero in the comics instead of the anti-hero implied in the commercial?

SS was originally herald to Galactus, so he was once a baddie, but loved earth too much to destroy it.

Ah, I see.  But can't wait for Ghost Rider!

I think Ghost Rider is too demonic for my taste.  Johnny Blaze gets his power from a DEMON (Zarathos) for Force sake!

What is the problem with that? I am a Catholic, but it is just a movie (and comics).

yeh, so I hate demonic stuff but really it's about him overcoming his curse to do bad things to do good things instead.

True, but I, personally, dislike the idea of being empowered by a demon.  He didn't have much of a choice, I know, but he could have fought harder to get rid of it.  As far as movies go, however, the special effects are going to be AWESOME, and it looks ok.  The movie, I've got nothing against, just the idea behind it.

PS: to get Ghost Rider's background story, go to www.answers.com/  and for the search, type in 'Ghost Rider'.  It may seem painfully obvious, but I accidently combined the two words, and got an amusement park ride in return.  :)

Well, Thank goodness there's a big difference between media and the real thing.
I can't complain too much about the demon thing, probably cause I watch too much anime.

Green Helmeted Fett, please try to stay on topic.

I am not a fan of him being powered by demonic forces, bu it does not bother me much.

Well, I loved Hellboy and he was a demon. I like Ghost Rider too. It more about over coming these forces, although Johnny Blaze did have something of a choice unlike Hellboy.

He made a deal with the devil,and we all know that never goes right. Hellboy was born the way he was,yet they both overcome these things and fight the good fight.

Hey Greenie, some of us actually have to pretend we work for a living (like me,if my boss finds out I'm goofing off.....well there will be a price on my head) so the replies come as they can. Patience,my man,patience.

Does everyone hate " spam? "

With the exeption of a minority, yes.

Yes,my darling. If you understood what it was you would too. Innocence of spam is a wonderful thing.

Technically Johnny didn't sell his sold to the devil, it was mephisto a ranking high demon. I don't know how much of a different there is in that though.
And yes, spam is annoying.

I might go see it, I dont know, it looks pretty good

But he attempted to sell his soul to Satan, but he got Mephistopheles.

I got the novelization of the movie and they just refuse to coin in that way. Mephisto comes to Johnny. And 'accidentally' sells his soul thinking it's a dream when he wakes up. Then he sees him again after you-might-know-who dies and then it hits him hard realizing what he did.

The movie is NEVER the same as the comics or even the novels based off of the comics.  As the comics were the original stories of the characters, I'm inclined to believe that more than any movie, regardless of quality.  And yes, Blaze DID attempt to sell his soul to Satan, but Mephisto was what he got.

Novel is based upon at least one of the screen plays so we'll soon see

I still want to see the movie, but that doesn't mean I have to like the way that Ghost Rider gets his power.

No it doesn't.  Thankfully.

yeah, movies always distort the novels or comics. But, The Lord of the Rings was the closest to the books ever(sorry sort off topic) but Ghost Rider demon or not he is human and most of us will do pretty much anything to get what he/she wants or to save som1 the love life. So if the only way to save the person you loved the most would be to make a deal with the devil(or another demon) would you do it?

And there's a painful scenario.

If you love something and go to the extreme of selling your own soul to save them it's admirable. But on the other hand it could just as greedy as that. You've lost someone, you can't live without them...hopefully they'd want you to be happy and move on.
In religion, that best person should go up on high to a better place. Wouldn't that just be keeping them on this monotinous plane, forcing them to stay for your own needs?

Or a less "deep" one that was in the Ghost Rider comics. A man loves a woman and will do anything to protect her. Zarathos staels the woman's soul, and the man sells his soul to Mephistopheles in order to get the woman's soul back. Because he sold his soul, he can no longer feel emotions, and can no longer love the woman.

Naw, I'm just generalizing.

I just saw the movie. It is great. The ending was predictable, though.

I just got back from seeing it with my mom and dad. My friends bailed on me...loved the movie though.
Even if the evening was predictable I enjoyed it.

There was a little kid sitting right behind me, making sure everyone understands whatt is going on in the movie. When they showed the face of Blackheart right before he was introduced, I hoped that it would scare him quiet. Then he started talking about how scared he was. I wanted to turn around and say "He is going to come into your bed and eat you, piece by piece, and then yor family, if you don't shut up!" Then, while my mom and I were walking back to the car, she fell to the ground.