Topic: Jango. Elite bounty hunter?

There has been some obvious controversy over the brainpower of Jango Fett. I myself feel he couldn't be that dumb as he was chosen as the template for the clone army, and he was a pretty well known bounty hunter. He may not have had the mental capacity of Boba, but he definately had his own wits about him.

This topic is fine, just, the name isn't. I'm cutting the end of the name.

Yeah he may not have been as smart as Boba cirtainly does not make him dumb as he was alot smarter then many others. I think it says on wiki Boba Focused more on the brain power of bounty hunting and Jango went with strength and fighting.

I am not saying that he is mentally retarded, just that he is below average. He frequently hires other mercenaries to do the work that he was hired to do. The three main ones were Aurra Sing, Zam Wesell, qand another female assassin whose name begins with a "V." The combined work of those four is how Jango became famous, I am sure.

Frequently? I don't really remember him hiring anyone other than Zam, and that was once and it was more or less a, "Please, buddy, help me out? I'll pay you." I don't know who this other assasin is. V? Are you thinking of Vosa? She was an enemy, he never hired her.

And Jango was famous before he even met Zam.

I think Jango was fairly smart. Yes, not as smart as Boba, but he wasn't dumb either.

No, I am not. This was in the New Essential Guide to Characters. I will try to find who she was in a minute.

Edit: From Zam's biography, "Jango admired her skills[,] and kept her on retainer to assist him on larger jobs*; in this capacity Zam worked alongside other contract employees such as** Aurra Sing and Vana Sage."

*I do not know what they mean by that, as she did not assist him in Episode I.
**This implies that he has even more.

From Jango's biography,"Jango entrusted the job to one of his freelance stringers, Zam Wesell, but killed her when she threatened the security of the operation."

I don't understand what's bad about hiring mercenaries to help.
Jango is indeed an elite Bounty Hunter.

There is nothing bad about it. I am merely saying that Jango was either a coward, as he did hire more mercenaries than necessary, or actually was so pathetic that he needed to hire mercenaries to do his jobs.

You sure got a hate for Jango, I've read on other sites about why people dont like jango and listening to the star wars geeks convos at school, and the reasons they dont like him is completly sick and they should be shot for it. They dont like him simply because he's from New Zealand, and I'm sure that if your a normal respectable person you'll agree that its all retarded.

by the way wasnt saying your racist draco, just bringing up why other people say they hate him.

Boba is a racist. In the young Fett novels, he says that he hates all Clawdites.

Jango is elite! He was the best before:
He got his head chopped off!

If he was the best, why did he hire other mercenaries to do the jobs that he was hired to complete?

Maybe cause he was a dad and wanted to stay alive for his son? At one point he even almost refused a job cause he wanted to stay home with Boba. That'd be a good reason to hire the job out to other people.

If im right wouldnt alot of this been before Boba?

He used his ten (at most) year old son as bait for a job. That does not appear to be the greatest act that a dad could do.

As has been stated, Jango was not as good as Boba. I agree with this full-heartedly, but just because Jango is different doesn't make him a bad bounty hunter. He actually trusted people, does that make him stupid? (If you say it does, you have some serious social problems.) Hiring people could actually make him smarter. Realizing he could not do a job all on his own and compensating for it is a pretty smart move in my mind.

Darth Vader hires bounty hunters to do things for him, does that make him pathetic, weak, and cowardly?

I do have social problems, but I do not think trusting people is necessarily stupid, but it is stupid for a bounty hunter (in the Star Wars galaxy) to trust myriads of people. If there were jobs that he could not do alone, he was never the greatest bounty hunter, as so many people are saying. Before Boba, I would say that the greatest bounty hunter was Cradossk, or maybe Cassus. Vader's job was not to hunt people down in the same way as a bounty hunters', therefor, that is a completely different subject.

All I am trying to say is that Jango isn't stupid or cowardly just because he hired help. He did not use help every mission, if he did, then yes he would suck completely. You are really just going on the stereotype that bounty hunters work alone. On Occasion i believe even Boba has split a reward with another hunter. So why can Jango not pay a trusted associate for helping him with an overwhelming job?

I know that bounty hunters often work with partners, but Jango hires mercenaries to actually execute the missions. Jango does not do anything with the mission.

i think he only hired other mercenaries once he had boba. i think before that he only worked with other mercenaries and didnt hire them. i think he hired others to do his work because he didn't want to risk boba when he didnt have to...

In the aformentioned book, it says that Zam joined his group of retainers, and that was before Boba was "born." Also, Jango never had to use Boba, he chose to.

Maybe that was the reason Jango wanted Boba in the first place, to use as bait and maybe he hires assassins to protect his own skin. You know, being a famous bounty hunter and all, he probably hires other, less popular assassins so no one can trace the job back to him.

I don't know, those are just a couple theories I had floting around my head.

I know Jango is no idiot. He must have a reason for doing what he did.

Well, you don't get to be the number one bounty hunter of the time by hiring people.  You have to build a reputation first.  Then once you're the best, you can do stuff like that.

Unless you're Boba Fett.

He had Boba mainly because the middle woman he used wanted him to have a child. If he was the beast, he would not need assassins to protect his skin.

If he was the best, he would have no reason to hire other mercenaries.

I think the real problem is that Draco has an unexplainable hatred for Jango that no amount of argument can change. Jango could outsmart 5 ig-88's at once, and you would ask, "Why not 6?"

He obviously did enough jobs on his own, he hired help for some jobs for what could be many reasons. I personally like the idea that he used these other bounty hunters as scapegoats so he could not be tracked down.

Well i wish i could qoute everyone who disagrees with Draco, but it's too many. Anyways, Draco, Jango was famous before he met Zam or any of his so called "freelance stringers". I'd like to see you live Jango's career without requiring help from time to time. And I can tell you have serious social problems...... And thank you for everyone who does not think Jango is a retarded and thank you for respecting Jango even if he's not as good as Boba. I really appreciate it, because in my childhood, I spent a lot of time playing Star Wars Bounty Hunter, reading Open Seasons, buying AOTC toys, etc. I greatly hate it when one of my favorite childhood heroes is disrespected for stupid reasons like the fact that Jango is "technically" from New Zealand. Thats bull. In fact writing this has inspired me to go play Battelfront 2 online once i set it up and make Jango get the respect he deserves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And Draco there is nothing wrong with asking for help occasionally, nor is there anything wrong trusting people.

Also I can't quote everything everyone else said but other than Draco i completely agree to every post, especially the one Fetterthanyou posted about  Jango beating 5 IG-88's. You bet he could. Remember, he is Boba's predecessor, the Fett of the prequels.

Oh and I am merely suggesting that one reason Draco might not like Jango is because he had a better death than Mandalore the Indomitable, which I believe is Draco's avatar. At least Jango didn't get eaten by some animals......

I think some people have the wrong idea about why Jango would use other hunters and mercenaries for his missions. It has nothing to do with his personal skill, or courage. You have to remember that Jango was trained by Jaster to lead the Mandalorian Commandos, and he did lead them quite well for a while. But that's the point, he has leadership skills, he understand tactics and strategy on squad and company levels. When he became a bounty hunter, and had large complicated jobs presented to him, he did not simply embark on them and try and pull them off. Maybe he could have accomplished them on his own, maybe not, but his mentality was to recruit the appropriate people with the right skills to accomplish the specific goal in mind. He would motivate them to accomplish it, and reward them when they did. He was a trained and experienced military leader. He simply thinks that way, and I think it is possible that Boba's penchant for working alone may have developed from learning from his father's example. Jango was a more physical person, who intelligently used others to accomplish his goals. Boba is more intelligent and cunning, but he used his physical presence to coerce others to do his will.

1. He was famous before he met Zam, but how do you know about the other retainers?
2. I never said that asking for help is cowardly, but his reatainers actually do the work for him.
3. I know.
4. Did I ever call Jango mentally retarded?
5. Trusting people is not smart if you have a job like Jango did.
6. I could care less how they died. I have never even read the comics that Mandalore the Indomitable was in.

maybe not... but you did say...
"That really is not saying much, as my halux toe-nail is smarter than Jango." implying his small mental capacity.

You sure did call him retarded, and I'll post it here when I find it.

I am almost positive that that is what you are thinking of. It is on the first page of this thread.

Alright, alright, sorry I brought your personal hatred. This is a discussion about whether Jango is in fact a smart enough man to be a proficient bounty hunter.

No more flaming one another.

I think that he is smart enough to be a great bounty hunter, he just is not.

I definately think Jango is smart enough. He's a Fett, isn't he? How about when he escaped from slavery and outwited numerous peoples whose names I forget? That took a little thinking I believe. Have some faith in the man. :) Can't we all just get along? Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. :)

Isn't the answer to all this obvious? Of course Jango was as smart as Boba they are the same person. Second hiring other assasins shows how good you are. Jango worked his way to the top of the pile until he was getting jobs that were to large for just one person to do alone. Ever wondered why they have seal TEAMS? So he hires other bounty hunters to help. Like using Zam as an expendable in Ep2. Besides he managed to beat Obi-Wan who is pretty smart and who had the force. Besides would you say that if a guy moved from the checkout to the managers office that that meant he was bad at doing the checkout? Of course not they are diferent jobs just like bounty hunting and being an intermediary are diferent. ANyway that is the end of my rant.

No offence mando, but I have got to correct some of your "rant."

1. Jango and Boba are not the same person. Just because Boba is a clone, does not make him Jango's exact copy. His genetics are the same, but his experiences, logic, and strategies are completely different.

2. Jango did not move from being a bounty hunter to being an intermediary. He stayed a bounty hunter and used the others as expendables as you said.

Other then that it's fine.

I agree with most of what you said except the 1st statement. Physically they have the same dna, genes, etc. Personality wise they're different people. So yeah them 2 Fett's aint the same nerf-herder son.

It's hard to know how smart/talented Jango is considering that all we have is the Ep. II novelization, Open Seasons, the Jango/Zam duology, and various Star Wars Tales.  One can probably assume from Open Seasons, since he was Mandalore at some point (unless I misunderstood the comic) he must have been a seasoned strategist and warrior, and thus a good bounty hunter and intelligent fellow.  But we can't say that he's as good or as smart as Boba because Boba is the original, has much more info about him for us to draw from, and lived longer.  Jango's name was infamous while he lived, but I don't think it was as well-known as Boba's. (i.e. Families probably weren't discussing Jango's fearsomeness over dinner.)

Jango Fett and Calo Nord becane household names, but none compared to the infamy of Boba Fett.

Lol when you said household names and discussing them over dinner I cracked up. I could just imagine a family sitting down for dinner...

"How was your day honey?"
"Fine. how was yours?"
"Good. Hey how about the fearsomeness of Jango and Calo Nord?"
"Yea, they are some very fearsome bounty hunters."

You had to be there i guess...

My dad even knows who Boba Fett is and only about four other sw charicters Vader, Luke, Liea, Solo, and Chewie.  So Boba Fett is a better known Bounty hunter than anyone else.

Just to clarify, I meant they are the same person in that they have the same basic potential as each other. Of course they are not the same literal person. As for Jango not being be an intermediary, perhaps you should read the visual dictionary. A little sentence begining, "Fett has become so profesionally formidable ...." In any case of course of Boba was better than Jango, that's what Jango had him made for. And of Course Jango was elite. He is specifically called the best bounty hunter in the galaxy.

I think it is unfair to compare the Fetts. Jango was Mandalorian and he cared about mandos and had feelings. Boba was the perfect hunter, cold calculating and ruthless. Jango was the perfect warrior.

Jango was definately a better Mandalore thann Boba.  At least until Boba makes an effort to become more Mando.

And just for the record, Jango was as well known as Boba. Read shatterpoint. A Bunch of kids on a back water world not only know him but he is their hero!

Virtually everybody knows who Boba is. A fair portion of the Galaxy knew who Jango was.

since you obliged to be so rude in your post (intentionally or not) I have a rebuttle.

This inferrs that you believe their intelligence is equal due to the fact that Boba is a clone of Jango. Not that you thought they had the same potential.

Also, Definition- Intermediary:
An intermediary is a third party that offers intermediation services between two trading parties.

Jango hired help from mercs and assassins to suppliment his strength and cover his weaknesses. As others have stated, he also worked well with others because of his innate leadership abilities. This in no way makes him an Intermediary.

Sorry that not everyone agrees with your personal opinion of Jango. As we have seen Draco and others have explained their reasons for denying Jango of his "Elite" status.

That geos without saying Boba wasnt brought  up by the mandalorians and he didnt serve for them so of course he isnt going to be much of a mandalore.

I dont think of Jango as thick but i am certain he is no were near as smart as Boba.

That is why they have insane asylums in the Star Wars galaxy.

Can see that fetterthanyou has a problem containing strong emotions. A shame really that fans of the same guy can't get along. Very well I will bow to your obviously vast wisdom, even if you can't understand the meaning of intermediary:) Ridiculous topic anyway, clearly Jango was an elite bounty hunter so why are we even discussing it?

Peace out.