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July 30, 2006 2:26 pm #

Thanks to Hollywood, many stereotypes have been created. Please post any others that you can think of.

Pirates had no reason to keep pet monkeys or parrots around unless they were going to sell them. Not all pirates were cruel people. Black Beard was not a great pirate, as he only captured less than thirty ships. Black Bart (Barthalomew Roberts) captured four-hundred fifty six ships, and he was religious, and hated cruelty. Pirate captains did not always wear tricorner hats.

Ninja typicly disguised themseves as gardners and the like. When they did wear costumes, they usualy used Noh costumes. When throwing knifes, the knives would spin, not go perfectly straight. They did not use nunchucks. Ninja did have honor.

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July 30, 2006 3:55 pm #

How do you know ninja never used nunchucks? I mean, its possible. And Parrots and Monkeys can keep a person company.

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July 30, 2006 4:13 pm #

Okay, know this probably doesn't count since zombies don't exist, but, how come they always walk, hands straight out, and only go, "Uhg." and are so stupid?

Blackbeard did infact take hostages, mostly head honchos in local government, and trade them for medicince for his crew. But, like you said, he wasn't the greatest.

Dumb, sexy blondes. I know two blondes that are, infact, smarter than just about anybody I know. Straight A students, and one, is probably headed for a Noble prize just knowing how smart she is. Grace, the future Nobel prize winner, can do Math in her head quicker than one person can blink, and I, a brown head, can't even begin to understand Trig. And she's taking advanced Trig. Kara, the other blonde, is as cool as al get out, she loves Mandalorians, and is learning Mando'a just because I am, she far from dumb.

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July 30, 2006 5:14 pm #

The stereotype that woman are naturally weaker than men. I've gone to tournaments before and the usual winners are girls, in Forensics acting there's always a girl in the finals.

And nunchuks woulnd't work for a ninja because they're useless. Especially if you're going to assassinate someone.
Just go and beat them in the head enough times they might keel over could be one of the worst plan ever concieved.

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July 30, 2006 5:20 pm #

The stereotype of some men believing that women are alive only to raise children and then the're useless.That's 100%wrong because we need women as much as they need us to perform the..erm...ritual(doh!)to have new humans on this world.I don't think we should even say this because it's clear:No women,no children.No men no children.Men+Woman=Children.It's pretty clear to me.

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July 30, 2006 5:25 pm (Edited July 30, 2006 05:29 pm) #

"Voodoo" priests/ priesteses created a poison that enters the user in a death-like state. The priest/ priestes then digs the victim up, and uses him/her as a minion.

Frankenstein's monster and Dracula are almost always dippicted in a manor that I do not have to discribe. In horror movies the African-American is usually the first to die. Also, knights (especially the final batch of the Knights Templar) were not all good people. The Freemasons do charitable work, and are not evil.

Fetterthanyou, I think that the nunchuck was a Chinese weapon. Most pirates probably did not care if they had company.

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July 30, 2006 7:49 pm #

I dunno if this counts or not, but what about cavemen living with dinosaurs. It never happened. Just like t-rex never hunted mammoths.

And Native Americans in old western films. They were usually portrayed as savages. When they weren't "bad" they were a sidekick type along the lines of Tonto.

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July 30, 2006 8:45 pm (Edited July 30, 2006 08:46 pm) #

One good stereotype is that vikings never had horns on their helmets, it was just a mith.

July 30, 2006 9:09 pm #

Yes, I hate how Frankenstien looks onscreen. He wasn't this big bad evil monster at all, he's a very sad character who just needed a little love.

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July 30, 2006 9:30 pm #

Also, cats and dogs do not always hate each other.

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July 31, 2006 7:43 am (Edited July 31, 2006 07:47 am) #
Miba wrote:

Yes, I hate how Frankenstien looks onscreen. He wasn't this big bad evil monster at all, he's a very sad character who just needed a little love.

Then again, he tossed that girl in the well...

The Stereotype that Irish people get drunk and fight everyone in sight... wait, that ones true :P. But seriously my whole family is of irish descent and nobody at our reunions gets drunk (or fights for that matter).

And why wouldn't pirate captains need company? I know they have a crew, but alot of alone time was spent in their quarters. And a parrot could seem like another person because of its speach.

And also i realize that nunchucks may not be the most silent and graceful weapon, but things did not always go according to plan. Plus if you know what you are doing with a real nunchuck, it only takes 1 hit to the head. (They are extremely dangerous).

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July 31, 2006 10:01 am #
Atinvod wrote:

Dumb blondes.

Yup, I don't like that stereotype. Although it doesn't stop me from telling the jokes. :P

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July 31, 2006 2:22 pm #

Yeah, and Frankenstein isn't a stupid zombie.

He's amazingly intellectual.

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July 31, 2006 2:41 pm (Edited August 1, 2006 02:10 am) #
Fetterthanyou wrote:

Plus if you know what you are doing with a real nunchuck, it only takes 1 hit to the head. (They are extremely dangerous).

Yep that is true nunchucks can be very deangerous weapons.

What about the stereotype of excellent bounty hunters falling into pits and having their heads chopped off eh? :P

I'm smiling because they havn't found the bodies yet. :)
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July 31, 2006 3:11 pm #

The sidekick never gets the girl. Ever. I mean, I'd rather end up with the clumsy, funny idoit, than the 8 foot tall brick.

The dog always dies. Shiloh, Old Yeller(sp?), etc.

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July 31, 2006 5:54 pm #
Atinvod wrote:

The sidekick never gets the girl. Ever. I mean, I'd rather end up with the clumsy, funny idoit, than the 8 foot tall brick.

What?!? What about Robin??? Thats exactly what he said in the movie "Batman and Robin"(I think that was the movie....), and he got the girl. ;) (batgirl)

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August 1, 2006 12:25 pm #

Well, I've never seen any of the Batman and Robins. And, go him then, he proved me wrong. ONE sidekick got the girl.

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August 1, 2006 3:15 pm #

That movie sucked though!

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August 1, 2006 5:12 pm #

Did it? the only Batman movie that I've seen is the most recent one, I thought it was pretty good.

Not sure if this is a stereotype, but most of the time, the bad has a cat. Has anybody else noticed this?

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August 1, 2006 6:11 pm (Edited August 1, 2006 06:23 pm) #

But it's cool for the badguy to have cat!

Batman Begins was good... as was the original and second movies. Forever was alright. Batman and Robin sucked though!

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August 1, 2006 6:15 pm #

Never saw Begins. I saw the older ones, plus the really-really old one with "pow" and stuff in bubbles onscreen, and Forever (which is probably my favorite). And I saw Batman and Robin (the one wit Ivy and Frost right?) and it was awful.

And, yeah, it's cool for the badguy to have a cat. :D

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August 1, 2006 6:47 pm #

Mercenaries are almost always idiotic immoralists.

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August 1, 2006 7:36 pm #

Like Bossk...

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August 2, 2006 9:45 am #

That's a bad one.

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August 2, 2006 10:47 am #
Mandalor_the_Smart_Alec wrote:

That movie sucked though!

That movie really did suck! George clooney was an AWEFUL Batman! He sucked!!! :mad:


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August 2, 2006 5:03 pm #
True Warrior wrote:
Mandalor_the_Smart_Alec wrote:

That movie sucked though!

That movie really did suck! George clooney was an AWEFUL Batman! He sucked!!! :mad:

Christian Bale played a surprisingly good batman in Batman begins.

Another stereotype is that geeks are always smart weaklings that sit in their room all day. I know people who can easily be classified this way (D&D, excessive computer use without sports or outside time) and some of them are barely passing their classes. Also, I will admit to playing excessive video games, trying D&D, and yet still play 3 sports (Soccer, Golf, Basketball).

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August 2, 2006 5:40 pm #

Christian Bale was good. He's good in most things...*cough*American Psycho*cough*Equilibrium*cough*

No offense but other than chess, golf is usually the second geek sport... I guess it would fit in this catagory then... I happen to be a geek and suck at both... Well, actually I suck at all sports but I do like soccer and basketball.

I don't know how this one will go over, but what about the stereotype that God is an old man with a huge grey beard and Einstein-ish hair? I personally think God looks more my grandad: short, mostly bald, and with a simple mustache.

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August 2, 2006 6:07 pm #

Equilibrium was one of the best movies I've seen in a long while.

Or the stereotype that Dragon Ball Z created for anime.

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August 2, 2006 7:39 pm #

Or that a good number of Shonen animes and mangas have the main characters using googles as a part of fashion. There is also the Stormtrooper effect.

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August 2, 2006 7:49 pm #

Googles? you mean goggles?

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August 2, 2006 7:59 pm (Edited August 2, 2006 08:33 pm) #

Yes I do. I need sleep. Oh well, too bad.

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August 2, 2006 8:32 pm #

I couldn't spell it either when I tried earlier.

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August 4, 2006 1:02 pm #

StarWars Fanboys vs. Trekkies. My best friend is a Trekkie, I'm a Trekkie, but we both like StarWars. Most people I know like both, I've never seen either genre of Fanboys go after each other.

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August 4, 2006 2:35 pm #

My dad always fools around and throws random stuff at me, saying "Use those video game reflexes." For a while I thought he was right, but it turns out i just have good reflexes. I tried it with my friend who plays games as much as I do, the water bottle exploded after bouncing off his hands, the wall, and then finally the ground. So people who play video games don't always have good reflexes.

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August 6, 2006 5:51 am #

Also, how every single spy in movies and what not are like James Bond, who could barely be considered a spy.

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August 6, 2006 6:34 am #
Atinvod wrote:

StarWars Fanboys vs. Trekkies. My best friend is a Trekkie, I'm a Trekkie, but we both like StarWars. Most people I know like both, I've never seen either genre of Fanboys go after each other.

This one Trekkie though, I almost hit him after he said Voyager could waste a Star Destroyer with about 4 torpedoes, along with the Death Star and pretty much every other craft in the Star Wars universe. Maybe not Trekkies as a whole, but that one almost screwed himself over.

And the movies make James Bond into more of a Rambo, without the ridiculous amount of muscle. The bad guys shoot about as well as a stormtrooper, and if you think in terms of if the movies were real - why doesn't this guy get old?

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August 20, 2006 8:26 am #

Women in movies often scream a lot or are excessively squeamish around violence, gore, bugs, etc.  You hardly ever see guys afraid of bugs in movies.

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