Topic: Is Fett evil?

I think that most people like Fett because in some alternate universe way.
Take me for an example.I lost my grandfather around the same age as Boba lost his father.Papaw G was like my father so I can relate to that and simpithize(I'm also a hopelessly bad speller).I picked up the series about him and admired the way he acted and the way he stuck to his morals.He probably doesn't take sardonic pleasure in his killings but,he doesn't feel bad about it either-he doesn't dream...
I also think that most people like the Sith and the such because if they were Sith they could get away with lust and other sins of the sort and have no guilt over it.I happen to like the Sith because,if you've played KOTOR,you know that they take matters into their own hands and don't sit around on their butts and 'meditate' over it.
To quote BFFC Chrys:
                                good intentions,bad methods
And to make everyone happy and not offened,let's stay off the war subject.I'm not offended but,some probably are.

I think that they show boba fett working with the empire and other dark organizations because they want to give you a little......i mean little*  evil/dark vibe....when you see boba. They also want to show ya how he should be feared.......as he is by most in the sw galaxy. Only those who hire him were not in fear because they knew that at that moment......he was hired out and was their pawn to use. On the other hand.....i think there is a good side to him where he only does it for the money.....not caring who/what he has to hunt. After all.............he is seeking bounty (bounty hunter). I get a vibe that is like........independant, Hard to the core, Ruthless, Feared, Mysterious thing that is only controlled by 1 person.....himself!!!!   that is what makes BOBA FETT my favorite charactor.

                                                               MandalorianSpy9

exactly...

Never in my entire life have I ever heard it that well put.

Spy is the best at that kind of thing. :)

Now I've been....absent, for awhile, and I know most people don't bother reading the older posts. So, I'll restate my opinion.

Boba Fett, I steadfastly believe, is a justice-dealer. Now justice, especially natural justice, isn't always pretty, but it's right. If I saw a rapist strapped to four trucks by his extremeties, and had them all floor it in different directions, I'd think, "Excessive, but not wrong."

Killing by itself is no sin, the commandments be damned, it's the motive behind it that defines its moral significance. If one kills for pleasure, then they in turn deserve to be killed in justice. I compare Boba to The Punisher, and see many similarities. They don't just kill for revenge, for as the latter said:

"In certain extreme situations, the law is inadequate. In order to shame its inadequacy, it is necessary to act outside the law. To pursue... natural justice. This is not vengeance. Revenge is not a valid motive, it's an emotional response. No. Not vengeance. This is punishment."

And as Boba Fett himself said:

"There is no greater good than justice."

They're killers, but they're not evil. They're brutal, but they're no sinners. For all their wanton slaughter, I see no greater good than men like these two.

Okay, well said.  I can second that.

I third it...but, and I looked this up, didn't Boba once think to himself that the reason that he didn't dream was because he had no remorse/regrets and that he was somewhat a just man? What's your views on that?

I've heard that one time before but didn't really think it over. Now that i do think it over, yeah...i think he kinda does think that about himself and doesn't find any remorse/regret and really fault in what he has done with his life...  Thinking about himself as a just man....hmmm  i dont know about that one, it sounds logical, but then you compare it to the whole of American civilization or all mankind actually and find that most think of themselves as just, you start to think that "just" is just a common personal oppinion, ya know...so. Good post though. :cool:

                                                                 {MW} MS9

I think Boba is just by his own standards, but since I believe that there is a real definition of right and wrong, I think that his standards are not always correct.  I think he's got some serious moral issues at times, but committing evil acts does not make a person evil.  To be evil you'd have to be a sadist or something like that.

Yeah, you're right.  In his own eyes, everything he does is justified. But in others eyes (especially those who suffer from him), it is a little different story.

                                                                    {MW} MS9

I Agree with MANDALORIANSPY9..............FETT isn't evil he just does the dirty work for whoever pays the best thats all...

                                                 {MW} JH3

Fett is Ruthless
Not evil...

that's a good new way to put it...ruthless...nice word for it.

                                                   {MW} MS9

I don't think he's ruthless.  Ruthless would mean he kills anyone, no matter what.  Fett definitely shows mercy when the situation merits it.

From my point of view, ruthess would just mean killing any one who gets in his way, which he does.

i agree there...he takes out anyone who gets in his way.   And ruthless to me   means more of....he is willing to take any measure to get the job done...

                                                                      {MW} MS9

Excellent observation - especially the fact that he's mysterious because he's controlled by only 1 person.  The Empire and the Rebs are both fighting for control of the galaxy.  The crime syndicates and dirtbags are fighting for control of illicit doings.  Fett, he profits from them all, making them his pawns.

I think Ruthless was the perfect word.
And thats why I didn't say "Reasonable" because that doesn't really describe Fett. Because to be honest he most certainly is not reasonable.
He is ruthless
He'll kill anyone in his way (as Draco Fett said)
He'll do whatever he feels he needs to do.
He asks for good money, he knows he's the best he's not going to Compromise...

In my opinion, I'm pretty sure Fett's not evil.  Do you wonder why Fett doesn't have a great big mansion and other things like that which only billionares can afford, even though he gets so much money for his work?  According to Wikipedia and certain comics, Boba donates most of the money he earns to orphanages and charities.  That's pretty solid proof tha he isn't evil.

                         {MW} SF

In the comics, Fett has never given money to the orphanage. He was going to, but he needed the credits to buy traps for Jodo Kast.

In a book he gave a few thousand to some orphans. (No Disintagrations, Please, in the book Tales from the New Republic)

Otherwise, I agree, he doesn't "give most his money to charities". As I've said in the past, don't trust wikis. ;)

No, No, was that the one where he took down an Imperial Garrison to get at the guy? In that one, he gave the guy back the 15,000 credit bounty, because he hadn't actually earned it. Give creds away to orphans? That's not our Fett.

Wasn't it the orphans that caused him to give the money though? It seems to me that's what that was about, like that one little orphan girl said something... I can't remember. It's fairly short maybe I should reread that again.

He has a pretty nice place in Star Wars Tales #18
I'd say it was probably pretty costly... Especially if it's on one of those worlds like Onderon or  the like...

He probably doesn't go around in a tuxedo and a golf cart becuase that life is too boring for him....

I'm sure that Fett has a genuinely sincere "good" side to him (example: orphans) and a more self sufficient..."what can it do for me" kinda side to him, that seems to give him a slightly evil shadow to him...that many of us here enjoy but many of his enemies shudder at.

                   {MW} MS9

Well maybe Fett is like

"Am I gonna Spend this Money?"

and if the answer is "NO" or "Maybe later"

then he'd probably just give it to someone who needs it more and is almost definitely not going to try and use it against him
For example: Orphans....

exactley! boba is not evil all of the time

I told you! He's not Evil! He's Ruthless!

Fett wants money. Money is the root of all evil. That said, maybe.

That quote was written by a poor person....

Wanting someting evil does not make one evil.

Since a lot of you guys buy into the prequels, which go by the assertion of Lucasfilm that any Expanded Universe material is NOT canon, i.e. books, comics, video games, other media that isn't that ACTUAL films. What tells us Boba Fett has a moral code? There is nothing. Nothing tells us that other than the EU. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you're wrong, just giving you food for thought.

P.S. Money isn't the root of evil, the capitalistic infrastructure is. :P

I do not believe Fett to be evil at all.  Just driven.

Eric, there's nothing in the Prequels that makes the original material incorrect.  Tales of the Bounty Hunters never says that Jaster was actually Boba, or that "Jaster" wasn't really Boba assuming grampa's identity.  All the other books/comics (as far as I know) never say anything more than, "Some people said that his real name was Jaster Mereel."  The prequels and the original books are completely compatible, and as a matter of fact, the personality of Boba in the prequel kids' books, morality included, is strikingly similar to the Original Boba, enough so that it can be seen as a step in his personal evolution.

Twin Engines gave me the impression that while Fett didn't give the orphans money on that particular occasion, he must have done so on a regular basis in the past; otherwise, the idea wouldn't have come to his mind.  Logically we can conclude that he continued to give money to orphans in the future--whenever it was convenient, that is.

Mereel was the basis for his moral background. Also the books ARE thrown out. There are old comics that have actual Mandalorians fighting in the clone wars -- not CGI stormtrooper knock-offs. Anyway, there's also a lot of other tales books that are crap now too, like the Davin Fleth, stormtrooper tale.

He is kinda mean some times  but he is not evil.

Of course he was.  I don't think anyone ever suggested otherwise.

Who says the books are thrown out?  I was under the impression that the Mandalorians DID fight in the Clone Wars under the new storyline (although this issue is very foggy and confusing for me), and that after the Emperor lost the ability to make clones they started using ordinary people for stormtroopers, which makes Davin Felth entirely possible.

From my understanding, Spar was leading the Mandalorian Protecters in some battles in the Clone Wars.

I heard one or two clonetroopers went renegade or whatever and started up the Mandalorians on their own and after that little group died out two or three loyal followers were left over (those guys from the old Marvel comics) who went on saying they were Mandalorians.

And, yes, with accelerated growth the Clonetroopers would be in their 60s by ANH, and I doubt 60-year-olds make ideal soldiers. They did indeed start acadamies for regular stormtroopers, like regular people who wanted to be stormtroopers, people liek Davin Felth, and Han. Han was a stormtrooper at one point. Some of the Stormtroopers are clones, just not Jango clones. I read in an Insider that, say, some General has a brother and the brother doesn't want to join the Imperial navy, they'd make a clone of the brother. And Stormie clones were also a sort of gift. Like an Admiral was having a birthday party, someone would clone him and make the clone a stormtrooper as a present.

Chrys, in Tales, it does say about Fett's quote about Justice being the greastest good, while standing trial was spoken by "Jaster Mereel, who would later be kwown as Boba Fett."  However, because of the all the prequels and the Open Seasons story, it is believed now that Boba used Jaster's name as an alias sometimes, and that it was an alias while a Journeyman Protector on Concord Dawn.  Kind of an "out of respect" kind of thing.  That way all the books can still be used and considered part of Fett's history. 

As for the Mandalorians during the Clone Wars, the renegade ARC Trooper, Spar, reorganized the Mandalorian Protectors (who had Tobi Dala and Fenn Shysa in their ranks) and fought on the side of the Separatists.  They referred to him as the "son of Jango Fett," which explains the Marvel comics story of why Tobi and Fenn thought he was Boba.  Something which Spar didn't discourage, apparently and it got him killed by Ailyn Vel later on in life. 

By the time of ANH, the Empire still used clones, they just had more than one facility, and used many different clone donor's.  Usually from high ranking families.  This way one facility couldn't be targeted and cripple the Empire's strength.  They also augmented their forces, though, with regular enlistee's.  Making it a mixed group of clones and regular humans.

What about Boba?

They didn't put growth acceleration in Boba.

No. He's not evil.

Yeah, Boba didn't get growth acceleration, which makes him about 30 in ANH.

When he was Mandalore, he was about sixty.

I remember doing some quick age calculations awhile back, considering that he knew Cradossk a long time ago. From what I remember, during most of his books he would have to be around 50 or 60.

Remember, if you've read the Republic Commando books, 60 is considered to be around middle age in the Republic universe.  Older, yeah, but not an invalid.  Kal Skirata was around sixty when he was portrayed in the books, and he was a tough little guy.  Somehow, I imagine my grandpa, thinner, but with those big popeye navy forearms that are like a vise-grip whenever he grabs hold of you, because you've been bad.  You knew you screwed up and were getting your butt busted if he got a hold of you like that.  Ouch!!

I think the quote that best sums up Boba comes from Die Hard III, spoken by the villiain in the film:

"I'm no monster, I'm a soldier.  However I sometimes work for monsters.."

He's just doin' his job.  And being a bounty hunter ain't like workin the counter at Hallmark.

vintagegamer

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing" I think this is something Boba would agree with. He doesn't sit there and let criminals go free, he hunts them down. So I'd say he's a good man doing his bit to thwart evil. :)